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Old 20th February 2008   #1
villa-ru
 
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Morning.

Just about to enter the L2B and thinking I'll probably go for it fixed. I know a few of you've done it & Ditchling is the bad bit. How does it compare to London hills like Highgate West & Fitzjohn's ave? Longer & less steep, longer & steeper, etc?

Just want to get an idea of whether I'll be able to make it up...

Ta.
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Old 20th February 2008   #2
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Ditchling's about twice as long and just as steep as Highgate West. I can't vouch for how easy it would be when full of thousands of other cyclists wobbling and walking everywhere though.
L-2-B is a good fixed ride generally, although there is a forum curse, so beware....
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Old 20th February 2008   #3
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Beware of 50*14
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Old 20th February 2008   #4
TheBrick(Tommy)
 
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someone draw some horns on him and put a red glare in his eyes.
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Old 20th February 2008   #5
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Yeah! I can't wait to do it this year! But gotta do a 6am start or it gets WAY too crowded. Anyone up for this?

Was chatting to a guy from the BHF and he says they are doing a L2B off-road this year for those who are interested.
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Old 20th February 2008   #6
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I'm up for it. Fixed shouldn't be too bad, but the traffic will be a problem... the traffic is always a problem.
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Old 20th February 2008   #7
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I'm going for the 6am start.

Looks like a few training runs will be needed to have any chance of getting up Ditchling. (or lower gearing!)
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Old 20th February 2008   #8
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I've binned my application already. Won't be doing that again. Gearing won't be the problem it'll be the traffic jam. Fell off twice going up Ditchling due to people pushing their bikes getting in the way. I'm useless at getting up early.
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Old 20th February 2008   #9
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I've done BHF once (geared) and won't do it again.
It's worth doing once.. just to see so many people on bikes (30,000).
It does get frustrating walking up hills.
I made Ditchling easily geared but it would depend more on how many people were on it at the same time as you arrived.
Leave at 5am ;)
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Old 20th February 2008   #10
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did the BHF (gears) last year and started at 0630. that was stupidly crowded. ride comes to a full stop up every hill and junctions. few accidents as well (much like the lfgss L2B tours!) so it's very hard to get a flow. stop start is very annoying. and loooong wait for coach ride home.

i suggest do our own (cos im not avail on the BHF date ;) and want to ride with the lfgss crew). we'll get a nearly uninterrupted ride and we can catch a train back. maybe a week or two after BHF's cos someone's bound to put the route up on bikely/gmap. if you feel guilty donate to BHF.

i think BMMF, hippy, brett, ma3k and others? got up ditchling on 46x17ish?!
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Old 20th February 2008   #11
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I was riding the Soma with 42x16 and just made it up. Any skinny cnuts that don't make it to the top will get a kicking from me and be forced to do it again until they make it or die trying.
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Old 20th February 2008   #12
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I'll planning on doing in unofficially this year and joining a few miles in early on so the crowd has started to break up.

Myself and the two mates I did it with all got knocked off our bikes in the first mile by people not looking where they were going.
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Old 20th February 2008   #13
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Made Ditchling last year, and I think I was riding something like 45x17 or 45x18.
Well, when I say "made", I mean "wheezed my way up" but you get the idea.
Since I did it last year, I reckon I'm allowed to walk it this time around
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Old 20th February 2008   #14
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Coming down Ditchling fixed is a lot more contentious than going up it. Especially with traffic on your tail :S
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Old 20th February 2008   #15
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48x18 up ditchling a few times. but will be very hard during official BHF ride cos of all the walkers and then the people on their mtb granny rings and wide handlebars twiddling up.

am up for fatboyralph's suggestion since i missed the last one and we need to put this curse to bed
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Old 20th February 2008   #16
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Who's your fucking daddy, curse?
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Old 20th February 2008   #17
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I'd be up for doing it again. Just not on the BHF ride, it'd be much nicer to do it with another FGSS group.

N2R MKII anyone?
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Old 20th February 2008   #18
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I too am up for fatboyralph's suggestion. Don't really like the idea of 30,000 other cyclists to be honest. I will attempt it on my 48x17. Hoping that going up Highate Hill every night with a heavy bag will stand me in good stead.

BMMF, will you be doing any more of the Saturday morning hill runs again. I still can't believe how quick you got up some of those hills. Especially Muswell Hill
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Old 20th February 2008   #19
pj (pj)
why not do it geared? much more fun.
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Old 20th February 2008   #20
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@ mikec - doubtful. I've just taken my shallow drops/hoods off, and stuck on track bars in readiness for HH. I'm also looking into experimenting with... GEARS! on the hills this year. Shock fucking horror.

You should make a date to ride down to the next Catford hillclimb in October, and watch how fast the hillclimbing elites get up 1 in 4s :O

Judging by the way you rode up the climbs on your 48x17, and with regular loaded ascents of HHW, you'll have no problems grinding up Ditchling. I think one of our group on the 50x14 ride did it in 48x16.
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Old 20th February 2008   #21
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pj:why not do it geared? much more fun.
Whoa - the power of suggestion!
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Old 20th February 2008   #22
lucky7
I am up for this again.
Even though I felt like my lung fell out after going up Ditchling!

LIST!!!!!
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Old 20th February 2008   #23
pj (pj)
i'd be up for it, i guess. although to be perfectly fank, for these longer rides, i.e 4+ hours in the saddle, i'd rather use gears, that's what they are for. i prefer to go downhill at around 45mph without spinning out savagely. i like descending. i like climbing as well, and prefer to do that with a range of gears too, thus maintaining a rhythm.

i know, call me old-fashioned, retarded, whatever. and it is fun to all get toegther and ride fixed.
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Old 20th February 2008   #24
lucky7
A few, were on gears last time.
I would think about doing it on gears too, if I had a geared bike.
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Old 20th February 2008   #25
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Putting to bed the N2R Curse
LFGSS L2B List.
Date TBC

1. Lucky 7
2. Jonny
3. FatboyRalph
46. Cornelius Blackfoot
5. Mikec
6. Velocity Boy
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Old 20th February 2008   #26
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beware of the curse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 20th February 2008   #27
lucky7
On the list you go then! lol

1. Lucky 7
2. Jonny
3. FatboyRalph
46. Cornelius Blackfoot
5. Mikec
6. Velocity Boy
7. Dogsballs
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Old 20th February 2008   #28
pj (pj)
1. Lucky 7
2. Jonny
3. FatboyRalph
46. Cornelius Blackfoot
5. Mikec
6. Velocity Boy
7. Dogsballs
8. 50:14
9. 63:11 brakelessrider
10. PJ (48:17, not geared, but wishes he was)
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Old 20th February 2008   #29
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dogsballs. What is this curse you speak of?
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Old 20th February 2008   #30
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pj:1. Lucky 7
2. Jonny
3. FatboyRalph
46. Cornelius Blackfoot
5. Mikec
6. Velocity Boy
7. Dogsballs
8. 50:14
9. 63:11 brakelessrider
10. PJ (48:17, not geared, but wishes he was)
i actually need an excuse to visit my mate and his new bike shop in brighton. might by a new pair of skinny jeans for the occasion.
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Old 20th February 2008   #31
pj (pj)
and man-kini.
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Old 20th February 2008   #32
fuzzbrain
I'd be up for this but can only make it to Sundays.
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Old 20th February 2008   #33
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If my mates aren't doing the BHF, then I guess I won't need to do it amongst 29999 numpties on hybrids, so...

1. Lucky 7
2. Jonny
3. FatboyRalph
46. Cornelius Blackfoot
5. Mikec
6. Velocity Boy
7. Dogsballs
8. 50:14
9. 63:11 brakelessrider
10. PJ (48:17, not geared, but wishes he was)
11. Villa-Ru
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Old 20th February 2008   #34
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mikec:dogsballs. What is this curse you speak of?
The three times I've ridden L2B, someone has broken bones. That's my kind of curse.
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Old 20th February 2008   #35
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mikec:dogsballs. What is this curse you speak of?
casualty list of previous london to brighton rides
50x14 - broken clavicle
object - fkd knee
+1 (another got wiped out, sorry, cant remember who)
fatboyralph - broken clavicle
BMMF - bruised thighs/arm/elbow/hand
illy - bruised thighs/arm/elbow/hand
francis - bruised thighs/arm/elbow/hand
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Old 20th February 2008   #36
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1. Lucky 7
2. Jonny
3. FatboyRalph
46. Cornelius Blackfoot
5. Mikec
6. Velocity Boy
7. Dogsballs
8. 50:14
9. 63:11 brakelessrider
10. PJ (48:17, not geared, but wishes he was)
11. Villa-Ru
17. Object (No one riding 50*14 is coming anywhere near me this time)
18. Flickwg (Object will ensure his attendance)
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Old 20th February 2008   #37
TheBrick(Tommy)
 
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go on then.
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Old 20th February 2008   #38
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did the official one last year, but wish i'd started earlier than 7. Am doing it again this year but not sure whether it will be geared or fixed yet. Dont really fancy going fixed in a road full of hybrid numpties either
would be up for a LFGSS one tho!
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Old 20th February 2008   #39
pj (pj)
i broke a friend's arm once.

it sounded like a pistol shot.

freakin' a.
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Old 20th February 2008   #40
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pj:i'd be up for it, i guess. although to be perfectly fank, for these longer rides, i.e 4+ hours in the saddle, i'd rather use gears, that's what they are for. i prefer to go downhill at around 45mph without spinning out savagely. i like descending. i like climbing as well, and prefer to do that with a range of gears too, thus maintaining a rhythm.

i know, call me old-fashioned, retarded, whatever. and it is fun to all get toegther and ride fixed.
You know, I was thinking this.

I like my long rides to be more comfortable, and faster.

I'm good either way, but if there is a faction going geared then I'll probably do the same... I just love those insanely fast descents.
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Old 20th February 2008   #41
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ooooh.... mankini chafing...

i'm up for a ride to brighton, but not in a huge crowd, and preferably on my road bike.

so that's a maybe for me?
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Old 20th February 2008   #42
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poofs!!
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Old 20th February 2008   #43
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That's quite a selection of injuries. Were most of these involved in one big crash all at the same time or something.
I tend to go down fast hills at a controlled pace. So fingers x
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Old 20th February 2008   #44
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31tum:poofs!!
You can't fkn talk Captain Stamina.
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Old 20th February 2008   #45
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hippy, you joining us on the spesh?
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Old 20th February 2008   #46
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we gonna lock in a date for this? this will be a good training run for those doin the dunwich epic in mid july.
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Old 20th February 2008   #47
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We could do the actual date.

I mean... let's not bother registering or anything... just turn up really early, jump the start line and go to Brighton.

The best thing about this is that the roads are closed.
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Old 20th February 2008   #48
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Doing it on the day is all very well, but you've got to remember that the only way you'll get home is by riding it. Southern Trains always employ a total bike ban on that particular Sunday.

I know for some/most of you riding back wouldn't be a problem, but I just thought I'd mention it!
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Old 20th February 2008   #49
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velocity boy:hippy, you joining us on the spesh?
Do you want to break someone's bones?
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Old 20th February 2008   #50
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Sam:Doing it on the day is all very well, but you've got to remember that the only way you'll get home is by riding it. Southern Trains always employ a total bike ban on that particular Sunday.

I know for some/most of you riding back wouldn't be a problem, but I just thought I'd mention it!
Pool together, book a coach and a van. What's so hard about that? You'd have to pay for the train ticket anyway.
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