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Old 12th November 2009   #1
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Wanted: MRI scan

aye, I know it's a bit of a long shot but I need an MRI scan on the lower back, the GP is telling me about 18 weeks waiting so I thought I'd ask here just in case someone has access to facilities for research etc…
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Old 12th November 2009   #2
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I used Vista Diagnostics at Waterloo. (http://www.vistadiagnostics.co.uk/)
You need to be referred by your Physio/Osteo/Doctor/etc.
You won't find a cheaper commercial service in London according to my referrer!

good luck!
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Old 12th November 2009   #3
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you need to get a doctor for a friend. everything is faster. i don't know if this is classified info. my dad is a doctor and always get it faster. seems fucked up. ah wheel.
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Old 12th November 2009   #4
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Its circ £800 from bupa.
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Old 12th November 2009   #5
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you need to get a doctor for a friend. everything is faster. i don't know if this is classified info. my dad is a doctor and always get it faster. seems fucked up. ah wheel.
You don't get many perks working in the NHS. I wish I could just turn up for work and get a bonus.... Though a thank you goes along way.

I managed to get one in less than two week's. But 22 years in the Health Service has to count for something.
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Old 12th November 2009   #6
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NHS now operates "choose & book" in most areas, where the patient can choose from a number of hospitals and book it yourself via phone/internet.

Ask for the hospital details yourself, call them all up regularly and ask for cancellations or if there are any earlier times you can be squeezed in.

To add to this the NHS has over the past few years been making a lot of smaller clinics for basic orthopedic's, MRI scans, physiotherapy and things like that to ease the waiting ques at larger hospitals.

Ive been referred for lots of things this year, and everything was quick and both my MRI scan & physio were at little clinics which have sprung up only a mile or so away in different directions to where I live.
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Old 12th November 2009   #7
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aye, I know it's a bit of a long shot but I need an MRI scan on the lower back, the GP is telling me about 18 weeks waiting so I thought I'd ask here just in case someone has access to facilities for research etc…

Wayne, I'll do you for £40, I can rig something up in the kitchen.
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Old 12th November 2009   #8
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lol @ tynan - very good :)
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Old 12th November 2009   #9
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Wayne, I'll do you for £40, I can rig something up in the kitchen.

It took 3 brilliant scientists, one of them being a Nobel prizewinner. Seven years of work to get one image. With an old horse shoe magnet and the power of the forum we should be able to manage something in less time than that...
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Old 12th November 2009   #10
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Ask for the hospital details yourself, call them all up regularly and ask for cancellations or if there are any earlier times you can be squeezed in.
+1, this works. Be persistent and you'll get cancellation places.
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Old 12th November 2009   #11
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I'm back at work on Monday and will ask in MRI. See what they say.
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Old 12th November 2009   #12
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Only trouble is, how big are you Wayne as the scanner is a tight fit....
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Old 12th November 2009   #13
vélo libredonor
 
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Only trouble is, how big are you Wayne as the scanner is a tight fit....
haha! not to mention really boring.
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Old 13th November 2009   #14
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really 18 weeks??? jeez i had my ultrasound and mri within a month!! must be because i live in chelsea haha
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Old 13th November 2009   #15
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It depends on the nature of the injury.. I had an brain MRI in less than 24 hours.. but I guess the impending death thing kinda warranted it.

Same day for £200-400:
http://www.vistadiagnostics.co.uk/mri_booking.htm

http://www.pponline.co.uk/forum/talk...cheap-mri-scan
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Old 13th November 2009   #16
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Did they find anything?
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Old 13th November 2009   #17
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You've seen the animated gif..
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Old 13th November 2009   #18
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It depends on the nature of the injury.. I had an brain MRI in less than 24 hours.

It's faster if you are hollow.
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Old 13th November 2009   #19
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You've seen the animated gif..

A brilliant piece of lateral thinking to produce a pseudo-dimensional image from discrete planar images. Only a genius could do such a thing.
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Old 13th November 2009   #20
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Did they find anything?

His post count was badly swollen.
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Old 13th November 2009   #21
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It's faster if you are hollow.
It's actually faster if you are solid. Since I'm a chunky fucking genius, it was well fast innit.
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Old 13th November 2009   #22
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A brilliant piece of lateral thinking to produce a pseudo-dimensional image from discrete planar images. Only a genius could do such a thing.
I know. I made the GIF.
You had a go at some satanic 3D devil work..
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Old 13th November 2009   #23
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Pah, Nobel snowbell.[/xmas]
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Old 13th November 2009   #24
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i waited 6 weeks for an mri on my knee at lewisham...go private i never recieved a conformation letter and missed my appointment when i rang up and complained they had a go at me as if its my fault the letter never turned up.....had my mri and i got two wait another 2 weeks for my resluts
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Old 13th November 2009   #25
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Wayne

Not sure if this helps but for a really quick and cheap result, maybe photshop something into this image:

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Old 13th November 2009   #26
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InHealth Netcare manage most of the inner London diagnostics. Turn around at the moment once you are referred for one is anything from 10 days up to 6 weeks. Your GP can refer you directly in most boroughs which will speed things up, otherwise you may get sent to Ortho / Physio first.

It's important to note that MRI's will find 'abnormal' things even in non-symptomatic patients and should not be used in isolation to decide upon management.
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Old 13th November 2009   #27
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haha! not to mention really boring.
*being scanned is really boring.
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Old 13th November 2009   #28
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Have a look at the intitute of phsyciatry web site at kings... I used to go in the scanner a bit when I worked there - they're always after controls.... actually they mainly do your head and make you look at disturbing faces. Forgot it. I'm daft. None of this helps.
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Old 13th November 2009   #29
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*being scanned is really boring.
makes a wicked sound though, sounds like some sort of abstract techno
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Old 13th November 2009   #30
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*being scanned is really boring.
i actually found it pretty fun, and i was allowed to continue to chew my gum while being scanned :)
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Old 13th November 2009   #31
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Check your health care policy at work you will still need a referral letter from work. I had the same problem a few months back and went through this route.
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Old 13th November 2009   #32
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i actually found it pretty fun, and i was allowed to continue to chew my gum while being scanned :)
They weren't scanning your head then?

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Old 13th November 2009   #33
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It depends on the nature of the injury.. I had an brain MRI in less than 24 hours.. but I guess the impending death thing kinda warranted it.
I got one less than six hours (time is an estimate - see end of sentence) after being hit by a taxi, knocked out and losing my memory of the previous two months. Maybe that's the way to go Wayne - get a really severe head injury and while you're in the machine ask them to do your back as well? Fast and free!
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Old 13th November 2009   #34
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I'm sure the London General Practice will do same day, but it wont be cheap - from memory my ankle scan was approx £1,500 and the magnetic field made my broken bones vibrate... if interested you will need a referral
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Old 13th November 2009   #35
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I used Vista Diagnostics at Waterloo. (http://www.vistadiagnostics.co.uk/)
You need to be referred by your Physio/Osteo/Doctor/etc.
You won't find a cheaper commercial service in London according to my referrer!

good luck!
I should add given the various other things mentioned that I was done:

- same day
- for more than 200, but less than 400!
- walked away with a CD of the results and instructions on how to view it.
- a copy of the CD was sent to my referrer.

2 days later a report came from Professor x who had analysed the results.

all in all very very good and highly recommended. I will use them again if i need such a service, i'm not waiting 3 months+ for one on the NHS.
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Old 13th November 2009   #36
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They weren't scanning your head then?

no, my lower stomach, the noises it makes are great, like being in Star Wars lol.
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Old 13th November 2009   #37
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£400? had an MRI for about £60 few years ago. that was in philippines tho. they're cheap down there. had artists sketch out the results on the spot.

have you had an xray? most of the time that's enough to show what's wrong and where
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Old 14th November 2009   #38
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This is completely serious advice here, no forum sarcasm.

Ask your doctor to fill out a suspected cancer form and have them fax it to your hospital.

You'll be in a machine within a few days.
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Old 14th November 2009   #39
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Old 14th November 2009   #40
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£400? had an MRI for about £60 few years ago. that was in philippines tho. they're cheap down there. had artists sketch out the results on the spot.

have you had an xray? most of the time that's enough to show what's wrong and where
Xray doesn't show the soft tissues well enough, CT scans also aren't ideal.

"MRI scans give greater detail of tissue structures of the brain, spinal cord, and musculoskeletal system than CT, without exposing the patient to large doses of ionising radiation."

£400 is bearable for an MRI here in .uk (as you can see by the mentions of £800+ in this thread!)

Either way, it's up to the 'health professional' that refers you as to what you have. In my case MRI was the requirement, Xray was not wanted.
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Old 14th November 2009   #41
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Your GP is likely talking rubbish. All NHS secondary care trusts have a responsibility to provide diagnosis AND treatment within 18 weeks of GP referral. That means that, for example, if you did have a slipped disc, the hospital you were referred to by your GP would have a responsibility to give you a specialist appointment and scan AND operation within 18 weeks. I'm sure you could see how this wouldn't work if it took 18 weeks just to get the scan.

Your GP may just be trying to fob you off a little - 60% of acute disc herniations will show significant improvement (i.e. not need surgery) within three months, and there is certainly an argument for not performing a scan until that time has passed, as for 60% of people that would be a wasted scan. The debate as to whether or not acute disc herniations should be operated on immediately or given a period of observation prior to operation is a subject of debate amongst surgeons (I say this as someone with moderate degree of experience in the management of spinal conditions), but horrific as the pain of a disc herniation is, chances are it will get better.

If you REALLY feel you need a scan (i.e. the discomfort/disability induced by the condition is so severe that you you would rather have an early spinal operation, rather than wait-and-see, with a good chance of spontaneous recovery), I would ask your GP to refer you for an urgent scan, and if he were unwilling to do so, ask to see another one of the GPs in the practice who would be likely to - another observation I have made is that it is quite easy to "bully" doctors in to ordering what, in their mind, is an unnecessary investigation - this is often easier with more senior doctors, who just can't be bothered to argue and don't want any trouble.

PS: this advice is NOT a substitute for a proper medical consultation - if you have worries about the advice you've been given by your GP, GET A SECOND OPINION.
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Old 14th November 2009   #42
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Xray doesn't show the soft tissues well enough, CT scans also aren't ideal.

"MRI scans give greater detail of tissue structures of the brain, spinal cord, and musculoskeletal system than CT, without exposing the patient to large doses of ionising radiation."

£400 is bearable for an MRI here in .uk (as you can see by the mentions of £800+ in this thread!)

Either way, it's up to the 'health professional' that refers you as to what you have. In my case MRI was the requirement, Xray was not wanted.
+1 on the soft tissue comment.

The £800 is the fee charged to AXA by spire roding private hospital in redbridge, and the Palmer Hospital in Chelsea. Don't know if prices differ if you pay on the spot or includes the specialists opinion on the MRI.
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Old 14th November 2009   #43
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I got one less than six hours (time is an estimate - see end of sentence) after being hit by a taxi, knocked out and losing my memory of the previous two months. Maybe that's the way to go Wayne - get a really severe head injury and while you're in the machine ask them to do your back as well? Fast and free!
I'm ignoring Ealing hospital's incompetence, the others scans, the misdiagnosis, the ambulance ride to Charing Cross and the surgery prior to it. Now I get them regularly. Maybe I can sneak BDW into my next one?
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