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Old 24th October 2009   #1
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Android phones, apps and tablets

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The first Android phone in the UK was the T-Mobile G1. An excellent first effort, but lacking in a few important areas.

It had a slide-out Qwerty keyboard, but NO built-in word processor. In fact, the G1 cannot be used without logging into a Google account, so the omission of straightforward connection to Google Docs, seemed unforgivable. Google Calendar, Google Contacts, and Google Email are all installed, so why Google Docs wasn't, was a real downer. A Qwerty keyboard, and no word processor. Shit planning.

It lacked internal memory for apps. Whereas the iPhone has 8GB-16GB, the G1 had only 256MB, (yes, not even 1GB) available for apps! A 16GB MicroSD card can be installed, but no apps will have access to this memory. A very serious hurdle for developers.

The apps store only had a reasonable amount of apps, in comparison to the Apple iStore, but many free apps for the G1, are paid-for only, on the iPhone.

So, the intermediate solution to early-adopter android phones, is to access Online Word Processors.

Online Word Processors:
Buzzword - from Adobe Acrobat
Google Docs - some negative issues, and doesn't always synch properly
Shutterborg - word processor AND a web page editor (on the fly)!!
ThinkFreeOnline - very good online office suite
ZohoWriter - well regarded word processor

There are now downloadable options, so one does not need to go online everytime one wishes to edit, create a doc.

Downloadable stand-alone Office Suites:
Documents To Go - pay for advanced edition to unlock full functionality
ThinkFreeMobile - full office suite

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I'd say that the ANDROID OS is the fastest developing of all phones OSes.

Phones on the UK market at the moment (Oct-Nov 2009) are:
T-Mobile G1
T-Mobile G2
T-Mobile Pulse
Samsung i7500
Motorola DEXT
HTC Magic
HTC Hero
HTC Tattoo

Still, the games are far behind what the iPhone has access to. This will still take a while to catch up to.

But the BEST thing about Android phones, is the huge amount of free apps, either in the Android Market,
or search via Cyrket, Android Feeder, and other similar repositories.

Last edited by GA2G; 8th May 2012 at 00:39.
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Old 24th October 2009   #2
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So, how do I phone home?
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Old 24th October 2009   #3
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Ashe, you need a drink, man. So do I :-)
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Old 24th October 2009   #4
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So, how do I phone home?
There's an app for that.
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Old 24th October 2009   #5
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.........need a drink.........
And there's an app for that too.
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Old 24th October 2009   #6
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8117382.stm
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Old 24th October 2009   #7
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hero's good, i've got one ;-) there's lots of info on the web about what you can do with it, e.g. at xda-developers forum - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...ename=HTC_Hero - which also has lots of info about other phones, too. the one thing that hasn't been mentioned by GA2G is that the android software is a lot more open than the iPhone software (which runs proprietary, closed-source mac software), although there are still some licensing issues and one of the major hackers was served with a cease and desist notice a while back by google.
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Old 24th October 2009   #8
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The C&D issued to Cyanogen was simply because his was distributing Google's proprietary apps within his custom ROMS. The workaround? Backup Google's apps, flash the phone with custom ROM, restore Google apps.

The custom
Galaxo ROM
I recently installed onto my Samsung i7500 has this backup/restore of Gapps done for you automatically. By changing process priorities and some other little hacks this ROM is faster than the stock firmware (the latest of which is II5).

Android is awesome.


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Old 24th October 2009   #9
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Andriod is for weirdos.
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Old 24th October 2009   #10
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Samsung firmware I7500XXII8 is available in some countries.
http://thehippy.net/nucleus/index.php?itemid=1385
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Old 24th October 2009   #11
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He he, I knew you'd bite.

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Old 24th October 2009   #12
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Get more memory whilst using the Galaxo ROM..
http://androidforums.com/samsung-i75...re-memory.html
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Old 24th October 2009   #13
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My set of instructions for upgrading to Galaxo ROM:
http://thehippy.net/nucleus/index.php?itemid=1387
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Old 25th October 2009   #14
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Old 1st November 2009   #15
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Analog Compass




Dungeon Wonder Lite




Farm Frenzy




Ebuddy




Google Sky Map


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Old 1st November 2009   #16
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Baseball Superstars 2009




Hyperspace LITE




Metal Detector


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Old 1st November 2009   #17
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Bubble Level




m:Racing




Shazam




ColorDict Dictionary




ColorFlashLight



DOOM


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Old 1st November 2009   #18
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Android apps I use:

Astro - file manager
beebPlayer (iPlayer for Andriod)
Countdown alarm
Dogg Catcher (podcatcher)
My Tracks (location tracker for google maps)
Password Safe
Weather
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Old 1st November 2009   #21
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The forum has an 'edit' button you know. There's no need for 10 posts, you can just edit the first to put in the new thing you want to say.
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Old 1st November 2009   #22
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Mouthwatering phones to come:

Acer Liquid A1


Motorola Droid

Sony Ericsson X10

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Old 1st November 2009   #23
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The forum has an 'edit' button you know. There's no need for 10 posts, you can just edit the first to put in the new thing you want to say.
Ooops. Sorry. I'll combine others from now on.

EDIT: However, the vagaries of T-Mobile broadband via simcard, often means dropped connection.
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Old 1st November 2009   #24
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I've got a switch I've never turned on... what it does is that if someone responds to a thread and they were the last poster, it appends to the last post rather than create a new post.

I've not turned it on because it's unexpected, and the server shouldn't be too surprising like that. But it does prevent flooding.

Not a problem for one or two posts, but when it's a whole stream of them it certainly makes me wonder about that switch ;)
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Old 1st November 2009   #25
d0cA
i've got the fixed gears app - very useful! http://www.androlib.com/android.appl...ears-qxAq.aspx
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Old 1st November 2009   #26
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Been messing about with a bit of Android application development .. as my work may be making some apps. You can specify the UI elemets with an XML file. Quite nice ... and you can develop in a kind of virtual mobile phone which is pretty cool.
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Old 1st November 2009   #27
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I'm due an upgrade in the next few weeks. Hero or Magic?
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Old 1st November 2009   #28
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VB, there were quite a few posts from hippy, and some input from Clefty, and me of course, about android phones.....bc (Before the Crash).

I was getting to the phone models, but was presently highlighting freeware on Android phones, as I really do feel that android is the future. I gain nothing from it, but was hoping you wouldn't mind indulging a few non-Redwood geeks.

My plan was to give a flavour of the (free) apps available, and let others join in, if they so wished. I don't intend to list all apps, just some different ones, in different genres.
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Old 1st November 2009   #29
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wools, on which network?

But either way, I believe the Hero is more recent than the Magic, and better specced.
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Old 1st November 2009   #30
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I'm on Vodapwned. Only the Magic is available as an upgrade through Vodafone but, apparently, I can get a Hero through Carphonewarehouse. I'm tempted to end the Vodafone contract though. They is a bit pants.
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Old 1st November 2009   #31
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I went into T-Mobile and had a demo of the Hero yesterday, looked very nice to me... I iz very excited to get one soon... [/dork mode]
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Old 1st November 2009   #32
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Hero is the newer. I have the Magic which does tend to bog down a bit when certain apps.

Favourite apps are the Tracks (as mentioed above), Locale (changes phone setting based on location, time, eg. silent at work) but best is the total integration with google, auto sync with calenders contacts email etc...
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Old 1st November 2009   #33
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Hero and Magic both have the same Qualcomm 528MHz processor.

I've got a Hero and I like it, but I need to update to the latest official ROM which apparently improves performance. Annoyingly, you need a PC to run the HTC update software :O

I can't do unofficial ROMs, before you start Hippy.
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Old 1st November 2009   #34
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Hero is the newer. I have the Magic which does tend to bog down a bit when certain apps.

Favourite apps are the Tracks (as mentioed above), Locale (changes phone setting based on location, time, eg. silent at work) but best is the total integration with google, auto sync with calenders contacts email etc...
Locale is a weird app. I can't get it to work how I want it to - it should be great but I can't work out if it is just me not using it correctly.

Yep - if you use google apps a lot as I do Android is truly awesome and will only get better. I still feel there is quite a long way to go for things to be as polished as the iPhone.
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Old 1st November 2009   #35
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I can't do unofficial ROMs, before you start Hippy.
Galaxo ftw! :)

Sony Ericsson (NYSE: SNE) may have a winner with the Rachael, which is set to be announced within two days. We’ve seen the teaser clip and now it’s time to see how this baby actually works. Yap, we have the UI video and I can tell you one thing – it rocks! The first Sony Ericsson Android-powered device will come with a WVGA (480×854 pixels) touchscreen and an optimized user interface that really takes advantage of the whole screen estate… Enough said, here’s the video. Enjoy!

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Old 1st November 2009   #36
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Locale is a weird app. I can't get it to work how I want it to - it should be great but I can't work out if it is just me not using it correctly.
What are you trying to get it to do? It seems to work for me. I only do simple stuff with it though, like turn the sound off between 11pm and 7am or set it to connect to work wifi when I'm at work and home wifi when I'm at home while leaving it off at other times to save battery power.
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Old 1st November 2009   #37
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Galaxo ftw! :)

Sony Ericsson (NYSE: SNE) may have a winner with the Rachael, which is set to be announced within two days. We’ve seen the teaser clip and now it’s time to see how this baby actually works. Yap, we have the UI video and I can tell you one thing – it rocks! The first Sony Ericsson Android-powered device will come with a WVGA (480×854 pixels) touchscreen and an optimized user interface that really takes advantage of the whole screen estate… Enough said, here’s the video. Enjoy!

YouTube - Rachel UI mediascape watermark 480x854
Wow! :o
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Old 1st November 2009   #38
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Yeah, looks like Mal will be getting the Galaxy when I get one of the X10s :)
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Old 2nd November 2009   #39
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I think I will stick with my Nokia 5210
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Old 2nd November 2009   #40
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I think I will stick with my Nokia 5210
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Old 2nd November 2009   #41
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I think I will stick with my Nokia 5210
Yeah, they're awesome. I don't know why I bought this Android phone. I'm going back to the shop and swapping it for an old school Nokia. Phew.. there's a weight off my shoulders.
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Old 2nd November 2009   #42
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I've got a switch I've never turned on... what it does is that if someone responds to a thread and they were the last poster, it appends to the last post rather than create a new post.

I've not turned it on because it's unexpected, and the server shouldn't be too surprising like that. But it does prevent flooding.

Not a problem for one or two posts, but when it's a whole stream of them it certainly makes me wonder about that switch ;)
In English? or even in Polish if its easier.
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Old 2nd November 2009   #43
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It means, there's a configuration option for the forum so that if you post a few times in a row, ie. you're the last poster to a thread, the forum will automatically append you posts into ONE rather than leave them as multiple replies.
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Old 2nd November 2009   #44
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jeeez Hippy you gone all Anal of a sudden?

Kurwa po Polski Dupku.
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Old 2nd November 2009   #45
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I'm busy running scripts on my phone. There is no humour in command line. I bid you good day.
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Old 2nd November 2009   #46
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I'm busy running scripts on my phone. There is no humour in command line. I bid you good day.
Drink Wodka the Humour Returns I am going to Sopot soon fancy coming?
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Old 2nd November 2009   #47
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Google Maps for Android 2.0


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Old 2nd November 2009   #48
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I use ebuddy on my Nokia 5800, it's alright, does the job
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Old 2nd November 2009   #49
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I'm on Vodapwned. Only the Magic is available as an upgrade through Vodafone but, apparently, I can get a Hero through Carphonewarehouse. I'm tempted to end the Vodafone contract though. They is a bit pants.
Dude, Carphone Whorehouse are a fucking joke in my experience - was stuck with those jokers for 2 years before I moved to Vodafone.
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Old 2nd November 2009   #50
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I got a Hero on Vodafone through Carphone Warehouse - no problem.
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