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2009-08-10 - Rider Down, Southwark Bridge, North side
 
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Old 10th August 2009   #1
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2009-08-10 - Rider Down, Southwark Bridge, North side

Whole place is closed off, ambulances, cops, the lot. I saw the mangled remains of a bike under the axels of a concrete mixing HGV. Fucking brutal. HGV must've been turning left onto the bridge and not seen the cyclist. Didn't see too much blood, hope the rider's OK.

Fucking hell this stuff shakes you up.
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Old 10th August 2009   #2
MrSmyth
i hope this isn't bad news.
that's where a courier was killed a few years ago.
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Old 10th August 2009   #3
matt (baddesigner)
 
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fingers crossed they had a lucky escape.
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Old 10th August 2009   #4
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Here?

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=sout...01206&t=k&z=20

I hope it's just a bike and the rider is ok.
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Old 10th August 2009   #5
sgt-pluck
Bad morning for it this morning. There was a really bad accident between a car and a motorbike on the embankment next to Waterloo bridge too. Motorcycle was ripped in half. Can't see how the biker will have walked away from that one, hope the cyclist faired a little better.
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Old 10th August 2009   #6
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The roads seemed particularly crazy this morning, with lots of random manoevres being pulled - more than usual I mean.

Fingers crossed for both cyclist and motorbike rider.
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Old 10th August 2009   #7
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Yeah, that's the spot.

Tbh there's no chance it's just a bike with the amount of ambulances there, but yeah, I just hope it wasn't too bad. Horrible.
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Old 10th August 2009   #8
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I cycled past the accident spot this morning going to work. The cyclist was actually stuck underneath the truck. I couldn't / didn't want to see more. I hope the cyclist will be ok.
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Old 10th August 2009   #9
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Bad morning for it this morning. There was a really bad accident between a car and a motorbike on the embankment next to Waterloo bridge too. Motorcycle was ripped in half. Can't see how the biker will have walked away from that one, hope the cyclist faired a little better.
Unfortunately have to agree, the Waterloo Bridge one looked epically bad. Really hope all involved are ok.
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Old 10th August 2009   #10
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Fingers crossed for both the cyclist and the motorcyclist.

Saw the wreckage of the motorcycle - a huge impact with a right-turning car. Didn't look promising.
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Old 10th August 2009   #11
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This does not sound good at all. Fingers crossed though :(
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Old 10th August 2009   #12
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it's right outside my office, i try not to look at accidents but my colleague said the bike is in between the front and second set of wheels of the cement mixer and the bike is badly mangled.

I do really hope there is a happy end to the story, and the motorcyclist.

it is exactly where a courier (Sebastien L------? according to the street memorial) was killed, and also less than 20m from where a commuter was killed about 9 months ago.
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Old 10th August 2009   #13
tika
i saw the motorbike and it looked pretty bad.
i hope for the best
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Old 10th August 2009   #14
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fingers crossed
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Old 10th August 2009   #15
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What an awful start to the week.... :(
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Old 10th August 2009   #16
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reading these rider down threads make my skin crawl, I hope both riders are ok.
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Old 10th August 2009   #17
jazzythumperdonor
Anyone know what bike it was? The girl i'm seeing cycles that way to work about that time of day? Can't contact her!
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Old 10th August 2009   #18
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It was chaos coming in from South this morning. There have been loads of trucks around the south end of southwark bridge for a few weeks, too many.

I really, really hope someone wasn't killed this morning.
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Old 10th August 2009   #19
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Anyone know what bike it was? The girl i'm seeing cycles that way to work about that time of day? Can't contact her!
Jesus. From what I could see it was a black hybrid but I wasn't looking hard.
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Old 10th August 2009   #20
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Oh no.

As t.o. said, this isn't only where Sebastian Lukomski died, but another cyclist was killed very close to there last year.

Terrible news, whether it is a serious injury or a fatality.

There don't seem to be any reports up on-line yet. Let's wait for more information.
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Old 10th August 2009   #21
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Jesus. From what I could see it was a black hybrid but I wasn't looking hard.
that's not hers. Here's hoping it is black. It was crazy this morning around tower bridge cycling to Hackney.
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Old 10th August 2009   #22
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Blue Raleigh according to this..
http://twitter.com/#search?q=southwark

"kaybar007 Blue Raleigh bike under wheels of Jim'll Mix It concrete mixer on Southwark Bridge today, second squashed cyclist there in 11 months #SE1"
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Old 10th August 2009   #23
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Christ, not just a HGV and but a place in which it's happened before.

Really hope it's not bad news.
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Old 10th August 2009   #24
jazzythumperdonor
yeah hope there is a happy ending to this.
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Old 10th August 2009   #25
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Blue Raleigh according to this..
http://twitter.com/#search?q=southwark

"kaybar007 Blue Raleigh bike under wheels of Jim'll Mix It concrete mixer on Southwark Bridge today, second squashed cyclist there in 11 months #SE1"
Bianchi according to
this
but it's hard to be certain.
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Old 10th August 2009   #26
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Fuck.

I attended the court case for the driver in the SL case. Police bod was there saying how this junction was ripe for another accident and I found it hard to disagree. Always hoped that it wouldn't happen again.

Fingers crossed for a happy ending.
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Old 10th August 2009   #27
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Initial rumours on the LCC in Hackney and Tower Hamlets Wheelers mailing lists suggest that police attending the scene have been telling passing cyclists that the cyclist's injuries were 'not major'. However, police have passed on incorrect facts about such collisions in similar situations before, so that this is worth treating with caution.
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Old 10th August 2009   #28
overdrive
I saw large tyre marks on Seb's street memorial the other day which means that corner must be too tight for HGV's.Really hope this rider is OK.
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Old 10th August 2009   #29
jv
they should consider banning hgvs from turning onto southwark bridge from upper/lower thames
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Old 10th August 2009   #30
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they should consider banning hgvs from turning onto southwark bridge from upper/lower thames
unlikely to happen as it would cost too much money and would impinge on the very important construction industry and have a knock on effect on the money making potential of the city.
it's all about priorities and the lives of pedestrians and cyclists don't figure very highly when it comes to road planning.
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Old 10th August 2009   #31
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I saw large tyre marks on Seb's street memorial the other day which means that corner must be too tight for HGV's.Really hope this rider is OK.
The corner isn't too tight. The driver's are just turning too tight.
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Old 10th August 2009   #32
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The corner isn't too tight. The driver's are just turning too tight.
That's what I meant.
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Old 10th August 2009   #33
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unlikely to happen as it would cost too much money and would impinge on the very important construction industry and have a knock on effect on the money making potential of the city.
it's all about priorities and the lives of pedestrians and cyclists don't figure very highly when it comes to road planning.
agreed, it's unlikely to happen. but i dont think it would be that much trouble to make hgvs drive up to blackfriars
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Old 10th August 2009   #34
t.o.donor
the pavement is quite wide, maybe they could narrow it and put a line of three or four large, well-anchored iron bollards about a metre away from the kerb into the road. Then lorries/cars/buses would be forced to take a wider arc around the corner, and the bollards would protect cyclists/pedestrians.

i don't think i've ever seen this anywhere though - perhaps there is a reason it has not been implemented (e.g. because cars might go straight in to the bollards...)

i have had to step back often while standing waiting to cross at the pedestrian crossing as lorries/buses misjudge the corner and come up onto the pavement.

Last edited by t.o.; 10th August 2009 at 11:08. Reason: poor sentence structure
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Old 10th August 2009   #35
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Motorcyclist survived, and is in hospital with serious injuries - link

The fact that drivers, including a lorry, attempted to squeeze through the scene is pretty appalling.
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Old 10th August 2009   #36
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Christ, all those cunts care about is getting to work on time.
Without jumping to conclusions, I would imagine that to cause that amount of damage, the car must have been travelling well in excess of the 30mph limit

Actually, just saw it was a head on collision so thats not necessarily the case

Last edited by mikec; 10th August 2009 at 11:08. Reason: Factually incorrect
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Old 10th August 2009   #37
jemjah
"A man who did not want to be named said: “This is unacceptable.
“There was an 80ft articulated lorry that made their way around it and they are telling me that they can’t let us through."

unbelievable!!!! all people care about is themselves.

i hope both riders pull through.
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Old 10th August 2009   #38
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Fingers crossed they are alright
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Old 10th August 2009   #39
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I'm sorry but why the fuck is that whole motorbike crash article about how the lorry blocked up the bridge? That's fucking insane.
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Old 10th August 2009   #40
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I'm sorry but why the fuck is that whole motorbike crash article about how the lorry blocked up the bridge? That's fucking insane.
It's often the case with bad journalism on such collisions. The most disgusting example I remember is the BBC coverage of Wan-Chen McGuinness' death in Holborn last year. A seemingly endless report mainly focusing on the impact on motor traffic, by an evidently inexperienced young journalist, but that's no excuse in my book.
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Old 10th August 2009   #41
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No excuse at all, there's a difference between shoddy journalism and clear lack of tact!
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Old 10th August 2009   #42
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Whilst no-one wants to be sat in a traffic jam for hours, you'd have thought that they might have reflected on the injured party a bit more, rather than threatening to go whining to Boris. WTF are they going to say?

"Mayor Johnson, it is an absolute disgrace that I was late for work. Tell these good-for-nothings not to get themselves seriously injured in my path. A good rogering from the house master, that's what they need. I don't know, in my day we had a bit more moral fibre, what what?"

WA(bunch of)Cs.
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Old 10th August 2009   #43
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fingers crossed for all concerned
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Old 10th August 2009   #44
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ride safe. stay behind. R
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Old 10th August 2009   #45
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"The woman was crushed by the truck belonging to the firm "Jim'll Mix It" at the junction of Upper Thames St and Southwark Bridge. She was also taken to the Royal London Hospital suffering from pelvis injuries."

Link
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Old 10th August 2009   #46
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Hopefully that means her injuries are not life threatening!
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Old 10th August 2009   #47
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I saw the aftermath of the motorbike smash on the Embankment. It was not pretty. Fingers crossed for both the biker and the cyclist.
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Old 10th August 2009   #48
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any news on the southwark bridge crash? Cycled past this morning and it chilled my bones. Really hope whoever it was is pulling through. I cross Upper Thames St every day and always find the traffic too fast and/or the drivers too willing to trundle through amber lights and across the path of the cyclists crossing onto southwark bridge road...
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Old 10th August 2009   #49
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From that Evening Standard article it doesn't look good. This is another horrible story and an accident that should be prevented.

How many times do cyclists need to be crushed by a left-turning lorry before something is actually done about it? It's great that the cops are ticketing RLJ and not addressing cabs in the ASLs or drivers not checking their mirrors. Disgusting.
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Old 10th August 2009   #50
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Hopefully that means her injuries are not life threatening!
disappointingly not - pelvic injuries can be extremely serious.

hoping for the best for this rider.
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