London Fixed-gear and Single-speed

5 months use, smooth as butter but apparently too big for my brooklyn so it's up for grabs - SOLD

bought from total cycling, listed on track bottom bracket section http://www.totalcycling.com/index.ph...NLESS_ISO.html

i did a quick measure from outside thread to outside thread with housetape measure, not calipers, seemed around 70mm











install instructions http://www.philwood.com/docs/crankbe...ationguide.pdf

drool

standard english cups?

i don't think cups are included.

If that would give me a good chainline using Stronglight track cranks and a goldtec hub I would take it.... transmission database doesn't offer this info tho, anyone know if it would?

Trouble is I can't remember what size my UN54 is. Shit. I think it's 110. You do get 5mm adjustment with the Phil cups tho don't you?

your shimano UN51, is JIS not ISO

oops.

i am really stupid today. if i keep the cups i need the tools. doh!

i don't need the cups then they and the tools are up for grabs too

would really liked to have kept this bb in my bike, anyone know if it would be possible? no idea on the bmw bb shell size...

normal 68mm english. adjustable cups means you have some room for moving side to side.

says english bb on the bmw website

edit - too late

Are they symetrical? I need to fit my Campagnolo pista crankset on this. I think the model for symetrical is BRS10S.

4 pms straight off the bat

yeah i knew it was english bb, which is why i bought it for my bmw, but had never installed one before, figured i just needed to adjust it, but 14 mechanic told me it was the wrong one for my bb?

the length (110mm) is from axle to axle yeah?

spot on for sug 75, to phil/goldtec rear

who's spot on? me or the mechanic?

i've been riding it fine until recently...

sorry to derail but how are these? i'm thinking of getting some just wondering what you think

What happened "recently"?...

the locktite didn't hold and the bb moved some mm's to the drive side. when previously i could see threads on both sides i could only see it on the drive side now.

so apparently the bb is 73mm and the bmw bb shell is 68.

ok i'm confused, are bb shells a standard width? are bb a standard width? if i know my bb is iso square taper as are my sugino 75s, and my bb shell is british and my cups are british, i would it all have worked together. and it did. but not perfectly. where did i go wrong? maybe i should post this in mechanics...

ps thanks to jakob and andy at 14 for sorting my new wheels, bb and chain!

but not the frame...

but with adjustable cups you should be able to adjust it?!?!

dale - the bb is 2.5 mm too wide for the frame on either side, the spindle length is correct - how does he adjust to account for the lack of thread in contact with the bb shell without severely compromising his chainline?.....

the only possible security he could have is by bunging a couple of bb lockrings from a loose bearing bb on.

@koens - am i to assume that by editing me out of your post you dont want to sell to me any more?

ah i get you, fuck up with order of BB, 73mm instead of 68mm. i thought it was a 68 bb in 73 shell.

painful on an £80 bb...

did i edit you out of the post? sorry didn't mean to, just wanted to provide the correct information for an objective opinion.

also as i now know i don't need the cups i want to sell as one lot.

the bb was listed on total cycles track bottom bracket section

http://www.totalcycling.com/index.ph...NLESS_ISO.html

i did a quick measure from outside thread to outside thread with housetape measure, not calipers, seemed around 70mm

answered that one on your other thread about this http://www.londonfgss.com/thread23119.html -

probably worth attempting a complaint.

this doesn't make sense, that should be for a 68mm shell according to site. could be total cycling fuck up.

edit, as SA says in other thread

you could sell the BB to MTBer's, then buy a 68mm one

Koens, mate, I'm out. Sorry. I asked our resident mechanic guru (dogsballs) about the shell and BB size issue and he says I'd be in the same boat as you with the BB shell on my Bob Jackson. Sorry dude.

yeah no worries, that's whay i wanted to update the details, but what i'm gonna do is get some digi calipers and take a pic to put an end to the mystery...

after two mechanics opinion and your own experience of it being too big you're still going to measure it ......?

i'll bet you a bb it's a 73mm :P

If it ends up being a 68mm one then I'll happily take it. But then I guess it'd be working on your Brooklyn and you'd want to keep it. Anyway, I'll be keeping an eye on this here thread. I wanna know the outcome!

ha! they all say 68/73 mm! http://philwood.com/store/page30.html

i guess it's the 5mm of adjustment it allows, so i guess everyone is right!

hmmm, so whats the pecking order for buying this then?

I'm so confused

Although thats not difficult

ha! ...........dibs are a minefield

ok so whoever wants the lot for £70 can have it, in this order;

socialamnesia
wools
31trum
lalanternerouge
kx.001

if it is 73, you just have to centre it in the BB, ie 2.5mm show each side and should be fine, spindle is the same. unless cups hit crank arms.

gwan then.... - any one need a set of bb tools for a phil?

So what's going on with this? Is it 68mm or 73mm? Or both? Calling all peeps with Phil Wood BBs!

Should this turn out to be compatible with my frame is this mine?

@SA - How much would you sell them for? Dibs!

wools and lpg both want tools i think

i only need one tool. wools - split?

lpg - wools is out - you want to make an offer on tools i have yet to posess...

so sa you buying them or is wools?

SOLD to wools... sorry sa, hadn't heard from you since yesterday and thougth you'd lost interest anyways...