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Old 9th May 2009   #1
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Kingston Chromed Road F&F (120mm) / San Marco Regal / Campag Record Headset & FD

I initially bought this bike hoping to turn it into a 'bike for life' or sorts. I never got round to it and most likely never will, so I'm advertising on the forum, before I attempt eBay...

I'm really not sure on the worth of the bike - Kingston was the brand which Mike Compton (who built Rotrax frames) used while the Rotrax name was with Witcomb Cycles. I have only ever seen 1 other Kingston frame and I think someone on here has it (Golden brown colour?)

Advised by Tim Maund, who still builds Rotrax bikes, that it was made in 1971 with all 531 tubing - http://rotraxcycles.wordpress.com/about/

The frame is fully chromed - The forks, lugs and 2/3rds of rear triangle are polished, whereas the main tubing is a matt chrome. Headbadge intact, but it missing brand decals. You can acquire some from the above blog. Nice fastback seatstays and curved rear brake bridge. Campagnolo front and rear dropouts.

Measurements c-c
TT 58cm
ST 60cm
HT 15.5cm
Rear spacing is 120mm.

The chrome by the BB isn't brilliant...and there are little bits of pitting (don't know the correct term in this case) by the lugs at the TT-ST cluster and around the BB.



As I said I'm not really sure of the price of this, but whatever offers I get I'll have to add on £15 for P&P from Bournemouth. I'm think around £140 odd... :S
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New White San Marco Regal saddle - Steel rails. Originally purchased for the above frame, but now it's not needed. Never fitted/riden.
You can get them new for £48 here, so I'd take £40 (Free P&P) for this. SOLD - EYEBROWS

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Campagnolo Record Threaded Headset - Again, never used/fitted - BNIB.
£45 here, so I'd take £35 (+£2 P&P) - SOLD - HLADIK

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Campagnolo Centaur QS 10sp Front Derailleur (32mm band). Brand new, never fitted/used. £10 (2 P&P)


Thanks

Last edited by Pifko; 13th May 2009 at 23:38.
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Old 9th May 2009   #2
Superprecisedonor
what year is the front mech please?
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Old 9th May 2009   #3
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I think it's 2007 - That's what the booklet mentions and the diagrams in it show Campag external BB cups, so that ties in I believe.

BTW I'm also looking for a newish Chorus/Record Braze-On FD if anyone has one?
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Old 9th May 2009   #4
Superprecisedonor
the 32mm band fits most steel frames right?
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Old 9th May 2009   #5
Pifkodonor
 
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Nah, a steel frame seat tube would be 28.6mm. I can send the relevant shim though.
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Old 9th May 2009   #6
Superprecisedonor
i think i'm getting ahead of myself. nevermind, thanks anyway.
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Old 9th May 2009   #7
eyebrows
pm'd and dibs on the saddle!
(just in case pm didn't work)

edit and as i'm using a proxy, please email me at:

gumtreetaysom AT google mail DOT com just in case.

cheers!
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Old 9th May 2009   #8
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That frame is v. nice - I'm going out now before I talk myself into it
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Old 9th May 2009   #9
kingcutterdonor
 
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That is a very nice frame I am going to keep an eye on this one.
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Old 9th May 2009   #10
rich
 
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I have only ever seen 1 other Kingston frame and I think someone on here has it (Golden brown colour?)
That's me. This is the first time I've seen another Kingston, although presumably there are at least a few more out there somewhere. Information is pretty scarce.

I got mine on eBay- I paid £130 for frame+fork, which I thought was a great deal- the original paintwork was pretty much immaculate, nice lugwork etc. As for the value of yours Pifko- you've mentioned £140 and I think that's fair enough for a 531 frame handbuilt by a respected framebuilder. Who knows if rarity adds value... I'm not a collector of vintage bicycles!

Anyhow, my Kingston rides really nice.
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Old 9th May 2009   #11
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im interested in the headset and frame £185 posted?
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Old 9th May 2009   #12
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pm'd and dibs on the saddle!
(just in case pm didn't work)

edit and as i'm using a proxy, please email me at:

gumtreetaysom AT google mail DOT com just in case.

cheers!
Ha! So much for you being IP banned. I got your PM(s) thanks :P
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Old 9th May 2009   #13
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That's me. This is the first time I've seen another Kingston, although presumably there are at least a few more out there somewhere. Information is pretty scarce.

I got mine on eBay- I paid £130 for frame+fork, which I thought was a great deal- the original paintwork was pretty much immaculate, nice lugwork etc. As for the value of yours Pifko- you've mentioned £140 and I think that's fair enough for a 531 frame handbuilt by a respected framebuilder. Who knows if rarity adds value... I'm not a collector of vintage bicycles!

Anyhow, my Kingston rides really nice.
Thanks for the info Rich. Like you say, I think I offered a realistic price, then again I'm probably going to get proven wrong once DMC or Hilary Stone see...

Would have loved to have built this up...Oh well.

I think the frame and HS have been spoken for, just waiting on payment...

Last edited by Pifko; 13th May 2009 at 23:41.
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Old 9th May 2009   #14
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Ha! So much for you being IP banned. I got your PM(s) thanks :P
It is, I've allowed myself a check every so often.
Usually on a server that doesn't allow me to post.
right off again now.
paypal will be there later today!
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Old 9th May 2009   #15
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Saddle now gone. Everything else available at the mo. I think I'll give the frame a week before I go down the eBay route.
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Old 9th May 2009   #16
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That frame is hot!

Someone should buy it soon.
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Old 9th May 2009   #17
samsortofthing
I'm definitly interested in the frame, but I wouldn't be able to pay 140 with the postage too. IM me if you could go any lower?
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Old 9th May 2009   #18
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Headset gone.
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Old 9th May 2009   #19
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That frame is absolutely perfectly my size - don't have space at the mo' but give me a shout if you happen to still have it in a couple of months... *sees flock of pigs fly by*
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Old 9th May 2009   #20
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lovely frame isnt it dave! shame its really too big for me as i would of had it . . .
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Old 20th May 2009   #21
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I am seriously considering this... or some flights to tanzania. decisions!
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Old 8th June 2009   #22
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I've scheduled an auction for this to start tomorrow evening on eBay. If anyone is interested, I'll accept a slightly lower price of £130...
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Old 8th June 2009   #23
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whats the last price for the saddle please?
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Old 8th June 2009   #24
dayno
anuverun, can't believe it, good luck with this, again another frame i like too big, nightmare tonight
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Old 8th June 2009   #25
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i got it sorry
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Old 8th June 2009   #26
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good luck with the rest
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Old 9th June 2009   #27
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Pifko I'm very interested just got to check finances et all as soon as I get home. Will PM you round 7ish if you can wait until then to start the ebay auction
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Old 9th June 2009   #28
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Yeah, no problem.
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