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Old 8th April 2009   #1
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Bike signs taped and bagged behind Fenchurch Street station?

Anybody know what's up with it? I think it was one of the one way streets that bikes were allowed to cycle in the opposite direction... it's just had islands put in for the contraflow bikes and now all the signes (ie "except bikes" under the no left turn) are covered?!
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Old 8th April 2009   #2
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More detail needed to tell. It could just be temporary until the works have been completed. Have they? It sounds to me as if they haven't.
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Old 8th April 2009   #3
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Cheers Oliver, thought you'd be the first to reply :-) Loved the link you posted to the helmet thread...

The street signs have been up for months, the road works were last week. The signs have been covered in such a way as to suggest it's going back to being one way for all traffic (ie one-way signs uncovered, bike lane and "except bikes" covered).

I have taken pictures but can't get them off my camera at the moment.

On the crutched friars/hart street.
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Old 8th April 2009   #4
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Cheers Oliver, thought you'd be the first to reply :-) Loved the link you posted to the helmet thread...

The street signs have been up for months, the road works were last week. The signs have been covered in such a way as to suggest it's going back to being one way for all traffic (ie one-way signs uncovered, bike lane and "except bikes" covered).

I have taken pictures but can't get them off my camera at the moment.

On the crutched friars/hart street.
Do you mean 'no entry' signs, or are they 'no motor vehicles' signs? It is currently still unlawful to erect 'no entry' signage with added 'except bikes' plates, and we've been campaigning for some years to have this changed. That's because if you want to give cyclists permission to ride contraflow, you either have to use the 'no motor vehicles' signs, which are apparently not recognised as widely as the 'no entry' sign, or you have to build a separate bike 'entrance' separated, for instance, by an island. The latter is expensive and takes ages to get through the system. So the best solution is to legalise the 'no entry/except bikes' combination, but until then engineers will make mistakes or not do anything at all, or be able to do only very little. Unless the signs were 'no motor vehicle' signs, it just sounds as if someone erected the wrong signage before the works were completed. Complicated, but I hope it makes sense.
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Old 8th April 2009   #5
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Ahhhh, they are (or were) indeed "no entry"'s with "except bikes" underneath. With recently added islands at the entrance and on the bend, but not at the junction in the middle...

Stranage thing is that the bike lane signs on the islands are also bagged up?!

I can see why the no motor vehicles sign's aren't used much, looks a bit like a no motorbike jumping cars sign to me :-)
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Ahhhh, they are (or were) indeed "no entry"'s with "except bikes" underneath. With recently added islands at the entrance and on the bend, but not at the junction in the middle...

Stranage thing is that the bike lane signs on the islands are also bagged up?!

I can see why the no motor vehicles sign's aren't used much, looks a bit like a no motorbike jumping cars sign to me :-)
It's indeed known as the 'flying motorbike' sign in the trade.

Actually, I forgot to mention that they may have received site-specific permission for the signs from the Secretary of State, but that would be a bit of a first.
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