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Old 28th May 2013   #4051
ewanmacdonor
 
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Awesome, thank you!
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Old 28th May 2013   #4052
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Nice to see your car getting into the pics :0)
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Old 28th May 2013   #4053
O'Shane
 
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Looks like my first TT of the year is going to be a wet one on Thursday. Bike is unchanged from last year and with all the commuting I've been doing I should be able to crack out a long 24min
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Old 28th May 2013   #4054
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My report on the Ron Brown Memorial 100 can be read here:

http://ukcyclesport.com/results/time...orial-100-2013

I have a couple more pictures which I'll post shortly.
Good result for hippy there.
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Old 28th May 2013   #4055
hippy
 
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hippy? that fat prick needs to know what a chequered flag looks like.
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Old 28th May 2013   #4056
_dan_donor
 
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true facts.
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Old 28th May 2013   #4057
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When's your next one?
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Old 28th May 2013   #4058
clubman
RBM picture

Hippy, about to sweep past no.27 on the climb after The Hen & Chickens.

Yes, I think it was a good result for Hippy, even though it must be a bit disappointing to get so near to being sub four hours and yet still not quite there. Still, look at the trajectory. An improvement of over a quarter of an hour on his qualifying time: if he can maintain that rate of improvement he'll soon be near comp record!

His 25 and 50 times were 59.44 and 1.59.59. which show excellent judgement of pace. Perhaps some one who can do a good 24 just sees the 100 as a speed event.
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Old 28th May 2013   #4059
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Pretty much that. I did no specific training for the 100. In fact, I'd skipped two weeks of speed work as I was in Poland riding a slightly ill-fitting CX bike over some hills. :)

I'm thinking of using the Icknield 100 next week as a training race rather than trying for sub-4hr. Ride out, race and ride back will be quite a long day on the bike if I manage it..

Thanks for the pic, clubman. Sorry I was a bit grumpy to have a chat afterwards. I'm still shaking my head at screwing up the finish.
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Old 28th May 2013   #4060
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I'm thinking of using the Icknield 100 next week as a training race rather than trying for sub-4hr. Ride out, race and ride back will be quite a long day on the bike if I manage it..

Sorry I was a bit grumpy to have a chat afterwards.

I didn't really notice that you were grumpy, but you are allowed to be after riding a 100.

As to the Icknield, I recommend going for a p.b., at least if the weather forecast is any good.

The F1 is a fast course, better than Farnham -Alton, (watch out for those dangerous spearpoint junctions though) - you'll really be grumpy if you screw up a good day on a good course!

Good luck anyway.
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Old 28th May 2013   #4061
T-V
Very impressive ride Hippy. I saw Dominic Hill did 3:51. Didn't know that he monstered TTs as well as tearing people to pieces at the velodrome.
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Old 28th May 2013   #4062
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As to the Icknield, I recommend going for a p.b.
+1
If you're going to pin a number on, get your money's worth. You can do a 200 mile training ride another day.
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Old 28th May 2013   #4063
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Hmm, I'll need to have a look at the course and maybe the weather to make my mind up. Right now I'm still shagged so even 30min on the turbo was a real chore.

I'm off at 6am so it won't be as fast as starting later will it? Or will it? Less traffic but possibly also less wind?

What's a spearpoint junction? Is it a merge lane where traffic joins the main road from the left?
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Old 28th May 2013   #4064
mdcc_testerdonor
 
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What's a spearpoint junction? Is it a merge lane where traffic joins the main road from the left?
Yes
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Old 28th May 2013   #4065
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Ah, no problemo then, I bounce off cars coming out of them all the time on the A413, A40, etc.
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Old 29th May 2013   #4066
_dan_donor
 
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Fucking ctt site. Why are you such an arsehole to log in to?

Does anyone know who I should contact if I can't log in?

Last edited by _dan_; 29th May 2013 at 08:20.
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Old 29th May 2013   #4067
mdcc_testerdonor
 
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Are you logging in to the right system? If so, and it fails, it would probably be easier to create a new registration than to get CTT to do anything.
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Old 29th May 2013   #4068
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ended up creating a new user - event was full anyway. FML
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Old 29th May 2013   #4069
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When's your next one?
week today - Westerley 10 at Hillingdon. Hopefully my body will have HTFU by then.
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Old 29th May 2013   #4070
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Make sure you count the laps.. I've done a few 11mile TTs on that circuit. :S
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Old 29th May 2013   #4071
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I'm rubbish at that, I try to count inner circle laps and never get past 5. I'm just going to stare at my Garmin.
What's the course like there by the way?
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Old 29th May 2013   #4072
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Bumpy and windy usually. So any time you do on that you will beat on a drag strip somewhere else.
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Old 29th May 2013   #4073
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:-/
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Old 29th May 2013   #4074
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It's still good fun and convenient for westies.
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Old 29th May 2013   #4075
skinny
Prepare to stop dead on the top once you come round the left hander if it's windy.
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Old 29th May 2013   #4076
hippy
 
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NB: Don't stop. It's not good for your time.
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Old 29th May 2013   #4077
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Entered the De Laune CC open 10 on the Q10/24 this Sat. Will be my first "open" event and also first TT on a course that isn't Bexley. Should be interesting, hopefully the weather won't be as shitty as it is today...
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Old 29th May 2013   #4078
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Fixedwheelnut has raced on that a few times should you need any course info. All I know is that it's pretty exposed so it'll be best if there's minimal wind.
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Old 29th May 2013   #4079
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That might trouble most people, although it wouldn't trouble rik.
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Old 29th May 2013   #4080
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Hmm, I'll need to have a look at the course and maybe the weather to make my mind up. Right now I'm still shagged so even 30min on the turbo was a real chore.
Trust Tester and me: it's a fast course.

However, like all such courses, it's only fast on a good day and this is why it would be a tragedy to miss a float morning if you have got a chance to exploit it.

Forget the bloody turbo. Just spend as much time as possible between now and Sunday morning sleeping and eating.
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Old 30th May 2013   #4081
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25.51 on h10/2

Another 27 seconds off...

:)
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Old 30th May 2013   #4082
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23:50 on R10/16a

A bit faster than expected seeing as all I've done this year is commute and a few mtb rides.
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Old 30th May 2013   #4083
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22.47 on A10/11, 70 seconds faster than last Saturday in arguably worse conditions... Nice to see some sort of form coming together
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Old 31st May 2013   #4084
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Thanks to ^ and ^^ for reminding me that there are still big improvements to be made!!

To that end (and I realise that fitness and experience are both going to be bringing me much more substantial gains) I have earmarked the planet x 82/101 wheels as my next purchase, is this the best use of the cash in buying speed or would a professional bike fit and a aero helmet be a better option?

Bike is a trek equinox which is essentially the right size, helmet is a giro atmos and I have a garmin with speed and cadence on the bike...

Suggestions including keep your cash in your pocket and train for a while welcome!
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Old 31st May 2013   #4085
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I did my first ever flying 200m TT (does this even get respected as a time trial?) on Wednesday night. I got 12.53s which is 0.13s off the current track league record. The track was damp so at least I have an excuse. :-P
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Old 31st May 2013   #4086
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To that end (and I realise that fitness and experience are both going to be bringing me much more substantial gains) I have earmarked the planet x 82/101 wheels as my next purchase, is this the best use of the cash in buying speed or would a professional bike fit and a aero helmet be a better option?
Definitely get the aero helmet first, much better VFM. Then a skinsuit, then wheels. Or wheels first, cos they look and sound fast :) Play around with your position as well, Adam Tophan's book is pretty good at explaining how to get a decent position and is a very good general guide to TT'ing IMO.

I'm only in my second season, and was doing similar times to you last year. Unfortunately I've bought pretty much all I can justify in terms of aero, so I can only go faster through training now :(
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Old 31st May 2013   #4087
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I've not read either of these in a long time but I believe that articles like these recommend that in terms of energy saving per dollar, that an aero lid and lots of lycra are the best 'value' improvements after getting an aero position (here and here).

Compared to others on here my experience is very limited, but one thing I would say is that when I started out (mainly in Tri) I threw quite a lot of money at buying aero kit (it still gives me a massive buzz to go out on my disc etc) but I'm starting to wonder if that money mightn't have been better spent on tools that would help me train to become a better athlete (eg. getting a power meter in a training wheel and a cheap disc cover).
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Old 31st May 2013   #4088
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Thanks to ^ and ^^ for reminding me that there are still big improvements to be made!!

To that end (and I realise that fitness and experience are both going to be bringing me much more substantial gains) I have earmarked the planet x 82/101 wheels as my next purchase, is this the best use of the cash in buying speed or would a professional bike fit and a aero helmet be a better option?

Bike is a trek equinox which is essentially the right size, helmet is a giro atmos and I have a garmin with speed and cadence on the bike...

Suggestions including keep your cash in your pocket and train for a while welcome!
What sort of wheels do you have now? Better position and probably an aero helmet are almost certainly worth more time than wheel choice. Do you ride in a skinsuit?Your body provides soemthing like 70% of the total drag so it's more important to get that right. Nice wheels always look nice though so that's why people always buy them :)
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Old 31st May 2013   #4089
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Definitely get the aero helmet first, much better VFM. Then a skinsuit, then wheels. Or wheels first, cos they look and sound fast :) Play around with your position as well, Adam Tophan's book is pretty good at explaining how to get a decent position and is a very good general guide to TT'ing IMO.
I would test positions first and buy an aero lid that suits the position you come up with. Some helmets work better than others depending on your back and how much you can drop your head, etc.
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Old 31st May 2013   #4090
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Thanks to ^ and ^^ for reminding me that there are still big improvements to be made!!
I've only ever done a TT on this course so I know it well. Makes it a lot easier to pace yourself when you know the course like the back of your hand
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Old 31st May 2013   #4091
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Compared to others on here my experience is very limited, but one thing I would say is that when I started out (mainly in Tri) I threw quite a lot of money at buying aero kit (it still gives me a massive buzz to go out on my disc etc) but I'm starting to wonder if that money mightn't have been better spent on tools that would help me train to become a better athlete (eg. getting a power meter in a training wheel and a cheap disc cover).
Training tools >>>> aero bling (unless you're a slevless, of course ;o))
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Old 31st May 2013   #4092
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unless you're a slevless, of course
Crawls back into hole...
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Old 31st May 2013   #4093
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You've seen the light, don't be afraid :)

I've raced triathlon. It doesn't have to be all about the gear.
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Old 31st May 2013   #4094
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I have earmarked the planet x 82/101 wheels as my next purchase
I have these wheels and they are very good for the money. Not sure how aero they actually are in the grand scheme of wheels but I guess they are better than shallow rims, plus they sound good which is totally a reason to buy them...

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Unfortunately I've bought pretty much all I can justify in terms of aero, so I can only go faster through training now :(
Exactly what I did! I am convinced that the aero helmet (first time wearing it) knocked about 6 seconds off my PB for a 10 a few weeks back.

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Old 31st May 2013   #4095
skinny
Is there a discussion somewhere on the best front wheel to run?
I know it'd be Zipp 808, hed h3. But is there something discussing the reasons and differences?

Can see anything obvious on TTF.


This is pretty detailed actually. But is not about the fc zipp.
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/forum/Sl...Rouge_P3738057

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Old 31st May 2013   #4096
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From my reading, the 808FC is best with the HED3 used when cross-winds might be an issue.
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Old 31st May 2013   #4097
skinny
This is pretty good.
http://forums.transitions.org.au/ind...ic=53090&st=75
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Old 31st May 2013   #4099
skinny
Yeah that first link references to the tour test here and there.

The 2nd link, refutes what you said about Hed best in wind. But it's n=1 test.
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Old 31st May 2013   #4100
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Yeah that first link references to the tour test here and there.
The 2nd link, refutes what you said about Hed best in wind. But it's n=1 test.
The second link says HED better than 808FC but it wasn't a tunnel test. I wonder what the scope for error is in his tests?
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