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Old 19th May 2009   #1053
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I don't mind the physical aspect of the game [tho my jaw still hurts from that ball in the face last night] as long everyone knows what is and isn't allowed, people can then make their own judgement on how much they want to get stuck in

The main point was the high mallets tho, definite nono
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Old 19th May 2009   #1054
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I don't mind the physical aspect of the game [tho my jaw still hurts from that ball in the face last night] as long everyone knows what is and isn't allowed, people can then make their own judgement on how much they want to get stuck in

The main point was the high mallets tho, definite nono
Defo.

(although the ball in the face is one of those freak accidents that could have happened in any sport with balls...)
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Is there nothing like the high-sticking rule in hockey? Like handlebar height or something? I just assumed there was.
Not officially, but it should be covered by the "don't be a dick" rule if you ask me?

If you actually hit someone with your mallet, you are definatly being a dick, IMO.
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Old 19th May 2009   #1055
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Defo.

(although the ball in the face is one of those freak accidents that could have happened in any sport with balls...)

Not officially, but it should be covered by the "don't be a dick" rule if you ask me?

If you actually hit someone with your mallet, you are definatly being a dick, IMO.

Gentleman/woman conduct
These rules will be s ubject to referee’s discretion. If the referee considers a rule broken
(either dangerous or tampering with play) they can instruct any player to either touch out at
centre court or circle the court without touching the ball.
Remember, if you do get in the way of play on purpose whilst circling the court the referee
can and will make you circle the court a second time even if the other team has scored within
this time.
• Mallets should not be swung higher than handlebar height around other players.

If someone was hit with a mallet it would break the like for like contact rule.
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Old 19th May 2009   #1056
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Where did you get those rules moog ?

Not sure they are the ones we follow tbh
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Old 19th May 2009   #1057
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http://londonbikepolo.wordpress.com/bike-polo-rules/

Says they were used during the film festival but I'm guessing the rules have developed a bit since then.
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Old 19th May 2009   #1058
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Yeah, Mike has an updated set somewhere which will be used for the Euro's etc and have been used during th league and subsequent tourney's.
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Old 19th May 2009   #1060
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If you find it it would be great to have it on the forum somewhere.

On an unrelated note, one thing I noticed when the East guys came to play was the etiquette after a goal has been scored. There was much more of a break in play and a clear indication of when everyone had tapped back in. I find when we play (I'm also guilty of this) that there is a rush to try and seize an sneaky advantage after a goal has been scored. It's happened a few times where not all players have tapped back in but the opposing team are already lining up for a goal.

I know the team who have conceded a goal can not cross the half way line before the scoring team taps back in but can members of the scoring team cross the line and play for the ball even if the entire team hasn't tapped in yet? Hmm that's not too clear, does anyone understand what I'm on about?
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Old 19th May 2009   #1061
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Yep I know what you are on about, it was happening last night too...

I've seen similar in league play, although the people tapping out first don't cross they line they do go forward and the last person generally slots into goal...

I see it as an unwritten rule that goes both ways, neither side should be accross the middle till the whole of the scoring team have tapped...

But at wests (perhaps because of a lack of team unity) the first person to tap back is often across the middle well before all their team mates have tapped...
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Old 19th May 2009   #1062
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there's no 'i' in team.
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Old 19th May 2009   #1063
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ahhh sweet bromance
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Old 19th May 2009   #1064
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i don't think there was any rough play last night, to be fair i think we need to get a bit more snap in the tackle.. a bit more lead in the pencil, beef in the sandwich. pick the tempo up a little.

High mallets needs to be nipped in the bud as someone is going to get one in the chops one day - it can't be me.. not with these chisled features!

To be honest you don't need a mahhossive swing to catch the ball, the power comes from the accelaration before the point at which you strike it. snap your wrists.. this way it's easier to disguise the shot/pass. you take a huge back swing half off hammersmith knows which way you are playing.. unless you drop a fakey and come inside then it's pure class..
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Old 19th May 2009   #1065
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there's no 'i' in tieiaimi.
there is
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Old 19th May 2009   #1066
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If you guys want to discuss rules:
http://www.ehbpc.org/the-tournament/rules/

This is not the latest update. I'm constantly working on the wording of these things just to clarify them a bit more. These rules are a combination of London's 'unwritten' rules and what I've seen played in Europe and in North America. I'm also not wanting to change the game that we have always played too much so a lot of it is still to the ref's discretion.

Speaking of ref's... any volunteers to ref the EHBPC qualifying tourney and/or the EHBPC tournament? Please let me know.
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Old 19th May 2009   #1067
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Oh, and there's not currently a high-mallet rule. Even though I just got a mallet in the cheek on Sunday and have 5 stitches, I'm not currently looking to add a high mallet rule anytime soon.
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Old 19th May 2009   #1068
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ouch, hope your healing ok, mike.
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Old 19th May 2009   #1069
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Oh, and there's not currently a high-mallet rule. Even though I just got a mallet in the cheek on Sunday and have 5 stitches, I'm not currently looking to add a high mallet rule anytime soon.
This post is useless without pictures .............
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Old 19th May 2009   #1070
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turn the other one Mike
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Old 19th May 2009   #1071
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like jesus says....
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Old 19th May 2009   #1072
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No mention of the don't be a dick rule!?

I think that's much better without frankley...

Is it open to discussion?

(edit: about this: http://www.ehbpc.org/the-tournament/rules/)
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Old 19th May 2009   #1073
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Of course it is. Preferably here: http://www.ehbpc.org/forum/
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Old 19th May 2009   #1074
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This post is useless without pictures .............
If you're at polo this evening, no need for pictures.
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Old 19th May 2009   #1075
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Actually after re-reading it, I don't think there's much to discuss... [*]

Infact I think it would be good to stick it up on the west court for those who don't come here but do go to polo?
[*]Except this: -If the ball becomes trapped within your bike or person play continues but please be aware that any legal play towards your bike or person will be considered as play towards the ball and therefore legal.

What does that mean? What happened for that rule to be worded like that? Did someone have a ball stuck in his helmet while people were swinging at him?!
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Old 19th May 2009   #1076
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shhh shhhh with all the detail nonsense

lets just crack on and play
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Old 19th May 2009   #1077
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What does that mean? What happened for that rule to be worded like that? Did someone have a ball stuck in his helmet while people were swinging at him?!
We've had balls stuck in wheels, pockets, hoods, turn ups etc. Always leads to much amusement as the player gets battered from all sides until the ball drops free.
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Old 19th May 2009   #1078
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fully. Tanya took me out twice and we were on the same team..... get in!
Shit!
Apologies!
I shall practice diligently and never tackle my own team again....
(embarrassed.....)
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Old 19th May 2009   #1079
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...

What does that mean? What happened for that rule to be worded like that? Did someone have a ball stuck in his helmet while people were swinging at him?!
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We've had balls stuck in wheels, pockets, hoods, turn ups etc. Always leads to much amusement as the player gets battered from all sides until the ball drops free.
Heh, yea. If the ball gets stuck on you somehow it always becomes a rush to be the first to free the ball! Flip-side, the player with the ball stuck to them always rushes towards the goal to try and knock it free into the goal.
By making all that legal play it's basically telling the person with the ball to get free of it quickly, or else!

Usually this goes on for a couple seconds and the person with the ball stops, puts a foot down and frees the ball manually, it's all well civilized...
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Old 19th May 2009   #1080
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We've had balls stuck in wheels, pockets, hoods, turn ups etc. Always leads to much amusement as the player gets battered from all sides until the ball drops free.
right, my new tactic for when alockemmup comes and plays is to have a spare ball in my pocket and at the right moment drop it into his hoodie…

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Old 19th May 2009   #1081
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shhh shhhh with all the detail nonsense

lets just crack on and play
I would, but i've got to work (In otherwords sit reading forums) at the moment so I might as well talk about details...
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We've had balls stuck in wheels, pockets, hoods, turn ups etc. Always leads to much amusement as the player gets battered from all sides until the ball drops free.
Seen balls in wheels a fair bit... love the idea of it ending up in someone's hoody...
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Shit!
Apologies!
I shall practice diligently and never tackle my own team again....
(embarrassed.....)
Team suicide is just a sign of your team mates not getting out your way fast enough, sounds like you were born to play polo. :-)
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Old 19th May 2009   #1082
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right, my new tactic for when alockemmup comes and plays is to have a spare ball in my pocket and at the right moment drop it into his hoodie…
Ha, you'll be too busy tapping out to involve yourself in such underhand tactics ;)
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Old 19th May 2009   #1083
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Ha, you'll be too busy tapping out to involve yourself in such underhand tactics ;)

Oh wayne.. thats a challange....
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Old 19th May 2009   #1084
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Old 19th May 2009   #1085
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just for clarity

Fouls:
-Players must not touch the floor with their feet. Touching the wall or barrier with your feet is allowed; feet must not touch the floor. Each time a player does foot-down, that player is out of play and may not play the ball until they touch either sideline at center court. The player must immediately tap-out and not purposefully obstruct play. Intentionally obstructing play after foot-down will be considered a strong penalty. A possible goal that is blocked by a player out of play due to foot-down is not a goal.
-Throwing your mallet is not allowed at any time and will be considered a strong penalty.
- T-bone’ or charging. Intentional, forward moving bike contact that is perpendicular or near perpendicular (resulting in a maneuver similar in shape to a letter ‘T’) will be considered a strong penalty.
-Overly aggressive behavior such as grabbing, pushing, punching with hands, pushing or kicking with feet, and headbutting will be considered a strong penalty.

“Like” contact that is allowed:
-Non-aggressive Body to body, mallet to mallet, and bike to bike. Apart from the fouls listed above.
-Contact is only permitted within the play of the ball. Contact away from the play of the ball can result in a tap-out or penalty.

Non-like contact that is allowed:
-Ball to body, mallet or bike.
-Body to ball is allowed if you are sat in the saddle, feet on the pedals, hand holding mallet, other hand on bars. You cannot intentionally restrain, nor add momentum to the ball with your body. This can result in the ref calling a tap-out.
-If the ball becomes trapped within your bike or person play continues but please be aware that any legal play towards your bike or person will be considered as play towards the ball and therefore legal.
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Old 19th May 2009   #1086
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nothing in there about giving A-lock an on the bike wedgie…
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Old 19th May 2009   #1087
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If we introduce training, diets and drug tests i am out!

there is also no rule for setting fire to another player....
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Old 19th May 2009   #1088
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You finished editing it now?

I particularlly glad this is acceptable:
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Non-like contact that is allowed:
-Ball to body, mallet or bike.
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Old 19th May 2009   #1089
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If we introduce training, diets and drug tests i am out!
I assume a polo drugs test would be stopping people playing if they hadn't smoked/drank enough?
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Old 19th May 2009   #1090
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If we introduce drug tests i am out!
are you worried about all this 'like to like body contact' Pip?

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Old 19th May 2009   #1091
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I assume a polo drugs test would be stopping people playing if they hadn't smoked/drank enough?
indeed, if it were the other way round, we wouldnt have any players :D
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Old 19th May 2009   #1092
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Quick question as regards getting myself all polo biked up ASAP on the serious cheap:

how do people feel about SE Racing 2009 Draft Lite single speed?

http://s233299868.e-shop.info/shop/a...free-gift.html

Are they really shitty and heavy?

If this bike is a serious no no then has anyone got any suggestions?

I'm happy enough to buy something fairly crappy and then change a few bits and bobs to make it polo-worthy.
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Old 19th May 2009   #1094
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Tanya there is a MTB frame at my bike lock up stripped, unlocked and left..
it needs tyres and rear wheel, chain etc but its a decent frame.. i am based in white city
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Old 19th May 2009   #1095
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or just keep an eye out on the forum classified section, ebay or freecycle if you are lucky... got my last frame for £35, the one before that £40... doesn't need to be much more than cheap if your just going to ride it from yours to the court :-)

Some like these:
http://www.londonfgss.com/post642378-274.html
£200 for a whole bike... almost polo ready...
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Old 19th May 2009   #1096
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Prav: What time? 4.30 ish right?

I was going to play at mitch from 7.30.
But if you are doing early then yes. Thunderdome?

Mike: If you need refs it something I would be most up for doing. Though I'm fairly new to the game I like to think I have a good grasp over what is and isn't allowed. :)
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Old 20th May 2009   #1097
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there's no 'i' in team.
there is a "me" tho
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Old 20th May 2009   #1098
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There is also two 'I's in SkIll PolIo.
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Old 20th May 2009   #1099
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Tanya there is a MTB frame at my bike lock up stripped, unlocked and left..
it needs tyres and rear wheel, chain etc but its a decent frame.. i am based in white city
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or just keep an eye out on the forum classified section, ebay or freecycle if you are lucky... got my last frame for £35, the one before that £40... doesn't need to be much more than cheap if your just going to ride it from yours to the court :-)

Some like these:
http://www.londonfgss.com/post642378-274.html
£200 for a whole bike... almost polo ready...
cheers guys.
Will look into some options but i might try to resurrect my boyfriend's old specialized crossroads hybrid as a first option.
Its been in the garden for some time so might not be in any kind of usable state but i'll have a look tonight.
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Old 20th May 2009   #1100
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you can do it loads cheaper Tanya

here's the frame I was on [you can probably negotiate the price down a bit]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BANKRUPT-FIXTI...3%3A3|294%3A50
Alf Webb ftw! best 60 quid i ever did spend!
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