London Fixed-gear and Single-speed SJS Cycles

Which are better track hubs?
Im looking into getting either, I know goldtec is more expensive.
I can get both at trade price so I dont mind the costs.

Not much in it. Personally I prefer the look of Gran Compes. I have seen much more Goldtecs around on forumengers bikes tho.

They give different chainlines though if that matters.

goldtec= absolutely indestructible.

gran compe were good, but didn't run as nicely as the goldtecs I have.

jus get phils . . . fuckin mine is still true and the amount of hops i done on that . . .

sooooo... trade price goldtecs then eh?
hook a brother up?

goldtecs. as good as phils i would say (but not as bling!)

Not strictly true, but BTED will stand by their product.

I think the axles on the Goldtec are overbuilt.

for bling and bombproof...get profile hubs ;)

Overbuilt works for me... I must say that I'd been running on a rear Phil for over a year and much prefer my new Goldtec... Smoother and solid as fuckin' fuck... Still love the Phil tho'...

Maybe more to do with quality of wheel build than quality of the hub? My Goldtec/CXP33 is still true after 5 years of riding and never being touched with a spoke key so BETD's wheel build quality is definitely alright.

I expect the Goldtecs will be a bit stonger than the Gran Compes but unless you're a serious fixed gear freestyler than either will be strong enough to take a lot of abuse. I'd decide based on looks and chainline.

got mine from them 2 years ago, still rock solid

+ 1

correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't gran compes just the same as sys ex, ambrosio, etc. but with better bearings?

^ Gran Compes are better.

I have some formulas and they are defo inferior.

However Phils are way better than Gran Compe's, so I suppose they are middle ground.

Having said all this, Formula, System Ex are all run by riders who claim thousands of miles of decent running...

I'd agree with Momentum, get the one you like the best which gives you the ideal chainline.

phils are slightly better than goldtecs. the hub flanges are thicker, making the wheels feel more solid. not a lot though!

gran comps

because they give a standard track chainline, goldtec don't.
means you can switch wheels out without changing BB.

but for the road, not much in it. Goldtec are decent hubs, but some people big them up a little more than they deserve..

it's a pair of sealed bearings,inside an aluminium shell with an axle running through the middle.

Best. RPM. Quote. Ever. :D

yeah, they're definitely better. i was just saying i thought it was the same shell with different bearings.

my sysex rear hub has been an absolute star mind.
bought it second hand, i've ridden thousands of miles on it, not taken a great amount of care of it, and it's still running perfectly!

might go against the grain here, just sold a pair of gran-compes and built up some goldtecs, and i think the gran compes might be the better hubs.

i do really like the goldtecs, but the grans seem to be made of a denser material, the spoke holes on the goldtecs went out of shape (that pull mark that comes from tensioning spokes) much faster than the gran compes.

i'm also not a big fan of the slotted type axle they use, especially since the cones/bearing seals float freely from the axle, makes flipping the rear wheel a bit more tedious.

and the outer bolts/washers aren't serrated so don't hold the wheel in place particularly well, especially with the aluminium axle, making it so you can't torque the bolts down as much as you could on phils.

aside from those minor issues though, the goldtecs spin much better than the gran compes, and they're very solid feeling on the road.

i think at the end, aesthetic would be the determining factor...

I love the gran compe, only done about 4 months of daily trashing on them so can't really say on durability yet.

I had the same decision to make, went with the gran compe for the chainline.

Here's a Question for you:
Goldtec Track hub at 135mm or Singlespeed MTB rear hub + bolt on disc cog?
running slightly large tyres....

Someone explain about the chainline with regard to hubs. I've just got a Sugino75 crank and BB (to come) and am looking at wheels now. Was looking at Goldtecs with Velocity rims.

Goldtecs ftw man, I rock da goldtecs and dey rulesss innit, the slightly newer ones also have some cool spacing system to match your chainline perfecto ya get me.

Peace.

Speak to da boyz at 14 and dey can hook you up fo realllz

Chainline is effectively the aligment between the cog and the chainring, which determines how straight the line is that your chain makes between the two, if that makes sense?

Understand that, but how/were do you adjust it to get it straight.

see transmission database, use a campag centaur 111mm BB

So I need to know what rear hub I'm using before I can buy/install a BB?

yep, your crank arms and hub determine what bb spindle taper/length you will need

So I guess I'd better make up my mind on a rear set-up.

Fancying a Phil so I can still go with a sugino75 BB. Worth the extra ££££.

Yuh they are really nice hubs, if I was gonna spend dosh on a BB though I would go with a royce BB.....awesomeness :)

I hear (correct me if I'm wrong) that, although both ISO, the Royce BB and Sugino crankset aren't actually compatible. I also read somewhere that you can send in the cranks you want to use and Royce'll spec the BB to suit them. For that sort of money I guess anything's possible!

Interesting I didn't know that, to me they appeared the same fitment, but....if they don't charge any extra to spec one to fit your cranks, i'd do it, english made bike porn ;)

Cheapest Royce BB is £115. Bit more than £60 for a sugino.

http://www.royce-uk.co.uk/

Anyone know the axle length on the gran compe rear hubs?
Wanting to fit one into a 130mm spaced frame and wondering how far I need to cold press it before I can just stick spacers on.

prob, 120mm

Goldtec provide/make a spacer kit for 130mm i'm pretty sure, why mess with your frame unecessarily, plus the threadless cone nut design is superior IMO.

In the market for set of sealed hubs, decided on Dia Compes. However, it seems there 2 sets available: Dia Compe and Gran Compe? Please can someone enlighten me?

Does anyone know where l can find a pair of 32H fix/fix in silver? Thanks!

Loads of places have them. JFGI.

You want gran compe track hubs.

I take it that you do not want that 36H DA hub then?

Yes, sorry, just found out the GC are step above the regular DCs.

Sorry Dammit, l sent you email re: hub. Hubs aren't for me and he wants sealed bearings.