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Old 29th October 2008   #1
livingasleep
Cinelli alter stem problem

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Sizes: 90-100-110-120-130-140. Clamp diameter: 26.0 Angle: 80 Weight: 210 gr. Screw: stainless steel. Construction: C.N.C. Assembly: Alter is also suitable for traditional forks if used with a special adapter, Quill, produced in aluminum alloy AL 7075 T6 with screws in stainless steel and expander aluminum to assembly the stem on old forks with an extra weight of only 75 grams. Height control is guaranteed with a special aluminum adjustable cup, Spacers, built in aluminum alloy AL 6082 T6 to give much height, guaranteeing always the best touch with the headset block.

I really want a cinelli alter stem. But i have a 1 1/8" fork and the stem is only made in 1". What can I do? (*cue inverse shim joke)

Above is a description of the stem from some site and it says there is a special adapter for tradional forks. Does that help me?
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Old 29th October 2008   #2
spagettihoops
give up.
never gonna work.
but dogsballs ays otherwise.......
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Old 29th October 2008   #3
jonnydonor
 
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Does that help me? No - you need a 1" steerer. adaptor only works to allow ahead style stems - still have to be the right size.
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Old 29th October 2008   #4
provenraddonor
 
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Buy a new fork.
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Old 29th October 2008   #5
livingasleep
Noob question alert: the 1 1/8 steerer bit pertains to the diameter of the bit that extends from my fork right? What would happen if I change my forks?
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Old 29th October 2008   #6
livingasleep
nice one provenrad. you must be psychic
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Old 29th October 2008   #7
provenraddonor
 
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If you get some 1 inch forks then you can use the stem!
You will need to get headtube shims / weird headset stuff going on to fit the smaller diameter steerer. Perhaps a real mechanic would have some better advice?
It would be a major hassle - sorry.
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Old 29th October 2008   #8
livingasleep
fuck it then. thanks though.
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Old 29th October 2008   #9
spagettihoops
i told you.
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Old 29th October 2008   #10
vinylvillain
 
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1 inch fork, headset adapter (about 5), and then you are good to go - as seen here on my Holdsworth . . .

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Old 29th October 2008   #11
livingasleep
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1 inch fork, headset adapter (about 5), and then you are good to go - as seen here on my Holdsworth . . .
I have a 1 1/8 fork that id like to use with the 1" alter. that doesnt really help does it.
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Old 29th October 2008   #12
spagettihoops
vv means you can get a shim to fit one inch forks, which makes them fit a 1 1/8 headtube, which i thought about doing myself...but i've been told it's not a great idea.
but if it's what yoy want the go for it!
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Old 29th October 2008   #13
horatio
 
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1 inch fork, headset adapter (about 5), and then you are good to go - as seen here on my Holdsworth . . .

Hey! That's a lady saddle! (isn't it?)
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Old 29th October 2008   #14
vinylvillain
 
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Non - Charge Ti Spoon
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Old 29th October 2008   #15
horatio
 
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blue threw me off. didn't know they did the spoon with the blue lettering (like the ladle).

Last edited by horatio; 29th October 2008 at 15:14. Reason: .
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Old 29th October 2008   #16
vinylvillain
 
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Well i have 3 of them, 2 brown, 1 black, and they all have different colour writing on them!?
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Old 29th October 2008   #17
dogsballs
 
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just get it reamed!
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Old 29th October 2008   #18
horatio
 
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yeah, they come in different colours. Just hadn't seen blue on a spoon before. *shrug*
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Old 29th October 2008   #19
spagettihoops
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just get it reamed!
theres not enough material dude.....it would leave you about 1mm of clamp around the steerer.
faceplant comes to mind.
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Old 29th October 2008   #20
dogsballs
 
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then do it to 1 1/16 then stretch it
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Old 16th May 2009   #21
billybob
Cinelli Alter stem help

could someone help me regarding cinelli alter stems..
i can only find them in 1".. but my fork is a 1 1/8 .. i'm sure i read somewhere that you can fit a 1" stem on a 1 1/8 fork.. but i dont see how?

looks like the vigorelli pictured below has an alter stem on a standard vigorelli fork which is 1 1/8.

could anyone clarify please.
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Old 16th May 2009   #22
spagettihoops
it wont work with a 1 1/8 inch fork.
the stem on the cinelli is an all in one handlebar/stem thingy that they made for 1 1/8 forks.
very expensive i think.
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Old 16th May 2009   #23
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could anyone clarify please.
Ah, he's used an inverse shim on the stem. Quite clever actually.
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Old 16th May 2009   #24
billybob
inverse shim?
i'm pretty new to bike mechanics..
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Old 16th May 2009   #25
spagettihoops
yeah, you could do it with an inverse shim actually, i forgot about that option.
send ASM a message, he has quite a selection usually. i'm sure he'll have one that will do the job.
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Old 16th May 2009   #26
billybob
cheers guys.
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Old 16th May 2009   #27
Sammy
 
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I dunno i reckon those vigorelli forks have got that italian 3D spacer on, its a new thing for 2010 i think
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Old 17th May 2009   #28
johan
 
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hoops, how did that inverse shim work out for you?
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Old 17th May 2009   #29
spagettihoops
i couldn't get the right one unfortunately.
i had to use the 'search function ' method to solve the problem.
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Old 17th May 2009   #30
johan
 
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Yeah, but I got the tip to inverse shim my search, that yielded me a good result
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Old 17th May 2009   #31
kyuss
 
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the stem on the cinelli is an all in one handlebar/stem thingy that they made for 1 1/8 forks.
very expensive i think.
And fucking horrible looking. Look at those welds. Integrated bars/stem should be prettier than that. Why couldn't they just release a 1 1/8th Alter? They obviously made the stem in that size since the Integralter was availabe in 1 1/8th, but they then went and spoiled it by only making it availabe with some bars awkwardly welded to it.

If you like that angular cut out look of the Alter there's the Modolo Oxo which is 1 1/8th and even better looking IMO. Good luck trying to find one though, I've been after one for ages, can't find them anywhere.

Last edited by kyuss; 17th May 2009 at 03:45.
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Old 17th May 2009   #32
the-smiling-buddha
 
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I tried filing one out to 1 1/8 - it ended up in the bin - there wasn't enough metal left for it to be safe
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Old 17th May 2009   #33
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the stem only is the alter the bar and stem combo is the integralter maybe these two have different sizes 1" for the alter and 1 1/8th for the integralter
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Old 17th May 2009   #34
billybob
it seems more trouble then its worth.

that modolo oxo looks interesting but not holding out finding one..
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Old 17th May 2009   #35
__C2__
Try a 3t Mutant or Cinelli Groove.....

Last edited by __C2__; 17th May 2009 at 19:24.
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Old 17th May 2009   #36
saxby'sdonor
 
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can you still get the pin up girls for these?
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Old 17th May 2009   #37
kowalski
 
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Yes.
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Old 3rd May 2012   #38
pierrot
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Originally Posted by billybob View Post
could someone help me regarding cinelli alter stems..
i can only find them in 1".. but my fork is a 1 1/8 .. i'm sure i read somewhere that you can fit a 1" stem on a 1 1/8 fork.. but i dont see how?

looks like the vigorelli pictured below has an alter stem on a standard vigorelli fork which is 1 1/8.

could anyone clarify please.
Thats the cinelli inregratler integrated aluminium bar and stem just like what cipo had they made it for 1 1/8 but trust me you wont find the integralter ive tried ( i did see one once i shoulda bought it if only i knew how rare thay are ) I did read a post on trackosuarus rex from two years back saying that cielli were going to rerelase the alter for 1 1/8 maybe sending them an email might enlighten you?
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