London Fixed-gear and Single-speed

Description
Sizes: 90-100-110-120-130-140. Clamp diameter: 26.0 Angle: 80° Weight: 210 gr. Screw: stainless steel. Construction: C.N.C. Assembly: Alter is also suitable for traditional forks if used with a special adapter, Quill, produced in aluminum alloy AL 7075 T6 with screws in stainless steel and expander aluminum to assembly the stem on old forks with an extra weight of only 75 grams. Height control is guaranteed with a special aluminum adjustable cup, Spacers, built in aluminum alloy AL 6082 T6 to give much height, guaranteeing always the best touch with the headset block.

I really want a cinelli alter stem. But i have a 1 1/8" fork and the stem is only made in 1". What can I do? (*cue inverse shim joke)

Above is a description of the stem from some site and it says there is a special adapter for tradional forks. Does that help me?

give up.
never gonna work.
but dogsballs ays otherwise.......

Does that help me? No - you need a 1" steerer. adaptor only works to allow ahead style stems - still have to be the right size.

Buy a new fork.

Noob question alert: the 1 1/8 steerer bit pertains to the diameter of the bit that extends from my fork right? What would happen if I change my forks?

nice one provenrad. you must be psychic

If you get some 1 inch forks then you can use the stem!
You will need to get headtube shims / weird headset stuff going on to fit the smaller diameter steerer. Perhaps a real mechanic would have some better advice?
It would be a major hassle - sorry.

fuck it then. thanks though.

i told you.

1 inch fork, headset adapter (about £5), and then you are good to go - as seen here on my Holdsworth . . .

I have a 1 1/8 fork that id like to use with the 1" alter. that doesnt really help does it.

vv means you can get a shim to fit one inch forks, which makes them fit a 1 1/8 headtube, which i thought about doing myself...but i've been told it's not a great idea.
but if it's what yoy want the go for it!

Hey! That's a lady saddle! (isn't it?)

Non - Charge Ti Spoon

blue threw me off. didn't know they did the spoon with the blue lettering (like the ladle).

Well i have 3 of them, 2 brown, 1 black, and they all have different colour writing on them!?

just get it reamed!

yeah, they come in different colours. Just hadn't seen blue on a spoon before. *shrug*

theres not enough material dude.....it would leave you about 1mm of clamp around the steerer.
faceplant comes to mind.

then do it to 1 1/16 then stretch it

could someone help me regarding cinelli alter stems..
i can only find them in 1".. but my fork is a 1 1/8 .. i'm sure i read somewhere that you can fit a 1" stem on a 1 1/8 fork.. but i dont see how?

looks like the vigorelli pictured below has an alter stem on a standard vigorelli fork which is 1 1/8.

could anyone clarify please.

it wont work with a 1 1/8 inch fork.
the stem on the cinelli is an all in one handlebar/stem thingy that they made for 1 1/8 forks.
very expensive i think.

Ah, he's used an inverse shim on the stem. Quite clever actually.

inverse shim?
i'm pretty new to bike mechanics..

yeah, you could do it with an inverse shim actually, i forgot about that option.
send ASM a message, he has quite a selection usually. i'm sure he'll have one that will do the job.

cheers guys.

I dunno i reckon those vigorelli forks have got that italian 3D spacer on, its a new thing for 2010 i think

hoops, how did that inverse shim work out for you?

i couldn't get the right one unfortunately.
i had to use the 'search function ' method to solve the problem.

Yeah, but I got the tip to inverse shim my search, that yielded me a good result

And fucking horrible looking. Look at those welds. Integrated bars/stem should be prettier than that. Why couldn't they just release a 1 1/8th Alter? They obviously made the stem in that size since the Integralter was availabe in 1 1/8th, but they then went and spoiled it by only making it availabe with some bars awkwardly welded to it.

If you like that angular cut out look of the Alter there's the Modolo Oxo which is 1 1/8th and even better looking IMO. Good luck trying to find one though, I've been after one for ages, can't find them anywhere.

I tried filing one out to 1 1/8 - it ended up in the bin - there wasn't enough metal left for it to be safe

the stem only is the alter the bar and stem combo is the integralter maybe these two have different sizes 1" for the alter and 1 1/8th for the integralter

it seems more trouble then its worth.

that modolo oxo looks interesting but not holding out finding one..

Try a 3t Mutant or Cinelli Groove.....

can you still get the pin up girls for these?

Yes.

Thats the cinelli inregratler integrated aluminium bar and stem just like what cipo had they made it for 1 1/8 but trust me you wont find the integralter ive tried ( i did see one once i shoulda bought it if only i knew how rare thay are ) I did read a post on trackosuarus rex from two years back saying that cielli were going to rerelase the alter for 1 1/8 maybe sending them an email might enlighten you?