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Old 29th October 2013   #1
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Generic Touring Thread

It seems odd that we don't have a thread to chuck up ideas about routes, places, etc.

A place to plan, and to dream, and share knowledge, and chat (yet more) shit.


So to get the ball rolling.
I'm toying up a double hitter this summer (well May)
10 days in Iran, followed by 10 days Oregon-SF....
This will change, undoubtedly, but Iran is looking like a winner.

Things I need to work out include- where the hell do I leave my bike bag?
Visas.
Routes (though both are very well toured)
Farsi.
Kit.
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Old 29th October 2013   #2
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I did notice that, we got touring equipment, bikepacking, individual tour, touring bike porn and that about it I think.
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Old 30th October 2013   #3
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Wontchya get wolloped by the modesty police for wearing cycling garmz?

Seriously though, would love to hear every detail about this Iran trip.
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Old 30th October 2013   #4
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Wontchya get wolloped by the modesty police for wearing cycling garmz?
I have hear and read stories about that, for female it's essential, but for men it's fine as long they have a linen trouser to put on when going into a settlement.
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Old 30th October 2013   #5
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eyebrows, if you haven't already, i'd recommend reading Full Tilt by Dervla Murphy, amazing book.
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Old 30th October 2013   #6
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Eyebrows, if you are serious about Iran, I'd get professional help with your visa from a travel agent here in the UK. I was refused a few years ago after simply filling in the application and sending it off. Apparently, they can be quite picky about who gets a visa issued to them.
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Old 30th October 2013   #7
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thinking of doing some credit card touring with a friend in Corsica, next year, probably 4-7 days, doing some of the coast roads that the tour rode on.
So I'm imagining, riding with a small pannier, not much clothing, and sleeping in a b&b of an evening. Thinking we would block up in one location and ride the roads round there, before riding to new location.

Any tips or thoughts feel free to post up.
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Old 30th October 2013   #8
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Bike packing or big carradice saddlebag will be enough, credit card in a warm countries mean you don't need a lots of layer.
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Old 30th October 2013   #9
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eyebrows, if you haven't already, i'd recommend reading Full Tilt by Dervla Murphy, amazing book.
Haven't read it, but its now on the amazon list.

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Eyebrows, if you are serious about Iran, I'd get professional help with your visa from a travel agent here in the UK. I was refused a few years ago after simply filling in the application and sending it off. Apparently, they can be quite picky about who gets a visa issued to them.
Have been looking into this, there seem to be 2 good agencies acc. Lonely Planet.

I'd say I was 75% serious so far.
The West Coast tour is already planned (ish).
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Old 30th October 2013   #10
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west coast tour would be amazing, I did the train from san fran to portland and then seattle and the countryside there was just eye popping. Many a sweeping vista..
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Old 30th October 2013   #11
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In that case Corny (and H), you'll like this;

http://railpass.tumblr.com/
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Old 30th October 2013   #12
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I just miss the West Coast. This summer's short tour was fun as hell, and the ease of touring the US for me is a massive draw- but it will always be easy.

Iran seems to be undergoing a semi-detente, so it seems like a great time to see what must be one of the most spectacular countries:
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Old 30th October 2013   #13
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(P.S. if anyone would be interested in going touring with me, let me know.)
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Old 30th October 2013   #14
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I was in Iran in 2004, both Tehran and Isfahan. Definitely go through Isfahan. It's < 200 miles as the crow flies.
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Old 30th October 2013   #15
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I'm keen on touring in Iran//Oregon, but gotta be fixed again.
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Old 30th October 2013   #16
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west coast tour would be amazing, I did the train from san fran to portland and then seattle and the countryside there was just eye popping. Many a sweeping vista..
Did Corsica coast-to-coast on foot a couple of years ago, awesome refuges in the mountains. Would thoroughly recommend. Can't say anything about it by bike. There's a diesel train that runs from Bastia north-east to south-west across the island which might take bikes.
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Old 3rd November 2013   #17
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Id love to go to Iran, but would spend much longer there if I did go or at least go into neighbouring countries.
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Old 5th November 2013   #18
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I've been thinking about a tour of the uk, all the way round the coast, for a while now. With some sort of trailer + surfboard setup. Might need to build a new bike for this, something with fat tires that will still cruise nicely on roads. Camping on beaches, surfing hidden breaks, camp fires...
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Old 5th November 2013   #19
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In that case Corny (and H), you'll like this;

http://railpass.tumblr.com/
his bike bag is brilliant https://vine.co/v/hrrHjagjwuA
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Old 5th November 2013   #20
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Who makes that? I know Scott made one a while back....
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Old 12th November 2013   #21
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Has anyone either toured or contemplated touring on a bullitt bike ? seems like a good idea
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Old 13th November 2013   #22
edscobledonor
 
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There's no reason why not, as long the bike fit you perfectly well.

e.g.

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Old 13th November 2013   #23
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A reason not to is too keep the weight (and the temptation to overpack) down.

It might be good if you are with a much weaker rider (like kids) and you're carrying two loads
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Old 15th November 2013   #24
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A reason not to is too keep the weight (and the temptation to overpack) down.
That's pretty much why I wanted one so that even if I did relatively few miles I could be much more free about what I pack
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Old 15th November 2013   #25
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Since the Bullitt is designed to cope with a lots of weight (more than a touring bike), it's not a question of overpacking it, but whether the gear range will be suitable.

Test ride one when you have the chance, it's one of the bike I would want to own in the future to keep this car-free malarkey up.
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Old 15th November 2013   #26
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Since the Bullitt is designed to cope with a lots of weight (more than a touring bike), it's not a question of overpacking it, but whether the gear range will be suitable.

Test ride one when you have the chance, it's one of the bike I would want to own in the future to keep this car-free malarkey up.
Would you recommend a external or hub gear though ? could see external being much easier to get sorted/bodge if it broke near or away from a bike shop ?
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Old 15th November 2013   #27
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The Buillit TNT seemed to fit your requirement, but can't tell if it's a 9 or 10 speed as the specification sheet is vague, former is ideas as it's cheaper to maintain.

If it's possible to spec your own Buillit, I'd advise 8 speed.

Having said that, no reason why the Alfine 8 can't do the job, providing you change the cog for a bigger one to cope with the terrain.
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Old 15th November 2013   #28
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The Buillit TNT seemed to fit your requirement, but can't tell if it's a 9 or 10 speed as the specification sheet is vague, former is ideas as it's cheaper to maintain.

If it's possible to spec your own Buillit, I'd advise 8 speed.

Having said that, no reason why the Alfine 8 can't do the job, providing you change the cog for a bigger one to cope with the terrain.
Wouldn't a internal 8 speed hub not have cogs ? ( I have literally no knowledge of hub gears)
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Old 15th November 2013   #29
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Cog, singular, for the Alfine hubs.

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Old 15th November 2013   #30
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Oh right will look into it , as to easy of repair would a external mech be better?
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Old 15th November 2013   #31
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Old 16th November 2013   #32
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Pretty much my plan , when/if I do it I'm going to get a dynamo hub for lights/phone charging so I should be fairly self sufficient
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Old 16th November 2013   #33
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Lots you can do with those bike, e.g. an actual washing line to dry your clothes, enough flat space to put a solar panel (on top of the dynamo), wear those cycling poncho with comfort.
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Old 9th December 2013   #34
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Came across this video The Road From Karakol
"In summer 2011, Outdoor Research athlete Kyle Dempster took off on his bike across Kyrgyzstan with a couple mostly-accurate maps, a trailer full of climbing gear, and a vocabulary of 10 Kyrgyz words. He spent two months pedaling and pushing the bike more than 1200 km on roads of variable states of neglect, wading through wild rivers, dealing with corrupt military checkpoint staff, and soloing a handful of unclimbed alpine rock and mixed routes. He recorded the journey, his camera his only partner, friend, and sometimes the only receiving end of his conversations for days at a time"

If you have 25 minutes its an interesting watch leaving my 'touring' feeling very non adventurous!
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Old 3rd January 2014   #35
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^ this was ace BTW.

Best intro to any touring film I have seen!
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Old 7th January 2014   #36
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Kuala Lumpur to London Olympics.

Hello,

I thought of sharing my 71 year old uncle's Blog about his bicycle journey from Malaysia to London for the Olympics. He did it with my cousin who joined him in India. I think the journey took them around 8 months. I was very happy to see them when they reached London. Unfortunately, my cousin and I manage to get arrested and put in a cell overnight when we joined the Olympic Critical Mass. It was a bad experience for us especially my cousin who basically was a 1st timer in London. He was very light hearted about it and the Police were very apologetic upon releasing us.
Anyway, their journey was very inspiring and I hope to embark on a similar kind of touring in the future.

http://oadnanxtreme.blogspot.co.uk/s...-paginate=true


http://www.theguardian.com/sport/201...?newsfeed=true





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Old 7th January 2014   #37
onyerbikedonor
^^^ loved the Road from Karakol. 360 DEGREES OF RAAAAAADDDDDD
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Old 7th January 2014   #38
bluebikerider
Thanks for sharing Modan, my wife is from Indonesia and as we plan to semi retire there when we are older I have often fantasised about riding there or back.

I'll work my thru the blog and take inspiration from it.
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Old 7th January 2014   #39
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You are welcome BBR, happy to share :)

Retiring in Indonesia wouldn't be such a bad idea! Riding there would be an amazing experience, I also would love to do this someday if my health allows.

Yes, Road from Karakol is awesome!
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Old 23rd January 2014   #41
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Anyone toured in Chile? Catydid and I are starting to plan a tandem trip from the Atacama down to Tierra del Fuego..... Currently just hoping that the bikefit/osteo/physio/yoga/drugs will sort her dodgy knee out.
Any thoughts or experiences gratefully received!
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Old 26th January 2014   #42
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Well shit, look like I done gone got myself going to Georgia for a spot of cycle touring.
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Old 26th January 2014   #43
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East Europe or USA?
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Old 26th January 2014   #44
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East Europe, just gonna pick up an old rigid MTB and ride it to shit, so I can sell it/ditch it after arriving at the Caspian from the Black.
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Old 19th February 2014   #45
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Has anyone ridden the Ciclovia Alpe Adria Radweg? (cycle route through Austria into Italy) Or any other cycling in Austria?
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Old 19th February 2014   #46
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Radweg is such a cool word.
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Old 19th February 2014   #47
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I know! I love everything about it. Radfahren on the radweg. Happy days.
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Old 19th February 2014   #48
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Radkunst!
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Old 19th February 2014   #49
Branwendonor
I have ridden along the river Elbe, they have Schwalbe innertube vending machines (!).
Really want to go back and do the whole river again, think it would be doable in a weekend :)

That route looks ... rad ! (thankyou thankyou), if its anything like the route along the Elbe it will be smooth tarmac all the way, except for bridges which will have cobbled sections at either end

Last edited by Branwen; 19th February 2014 at 10:45.
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Old 19th February 2014   #50
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Radkunst!
Ha!
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if its anything like the route along the Elbe it will be smooth tarmac all the way, except for bridges which will have cobbled sections at either end
This is good - I was worried that there might be lots of gravel sections.
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