London Fixed-gear and Single-speed

Hi guys, i'm selling this marvellous Colnago México steel vintage bicycle from my private collection. This "pearl" comes equipped with:


- Shimano 105 groupset
- Shimano Deore brakes
- Rolf Vector Pro wheels and hubs
- Selle Italia saddle
- Dolce Vita saddle carbon spike
- TTT Stem
- Mattock carbon bottle of water cage
- Dropbars Cinelli Criterium classic
- Racing columbus SL geometry: 53cm Top Tube X 51cm Seat Tube

I'm asking: 1000 pounds + 41 pounds (shipping costs to any country on europe)

Any questions, please feel free to ask me anything. The bicycle is in Portugal.

Cheers

Allah ah bar

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Allahu Akbar?
Takbir?

Could you show if there is a club on the fork crown or cut out of the bottom bracket?
Does it say Colnago anywhere?

I doubt it

looked at this bike four times.

And it's still not making any sense.

I will say though that the higher the asking price the more photographs
the seller should post (or link to). IMHO.

Mmmmmm doesn't seem to be like the super Mexico frame I have just got !!!!
No colnago markings on the frame ???

Was that the Buy-It Now on ebay?

1st point, i've bought this bike some year ago, and i can garantee to you that this is a Colnago, if it isn't the Mexico i don't know, but after some comparisons on the net, i see some identical points on it. For what i've known this bike has been refurbished, so the chrome parts on the back anchors are now black. I will post a photo of the bottom braket so you can see the colnago mark on it.

Bottom Braket:

Any pics of the similar frames? I'm not saying it's fake, but I've not seen any Colnago's like it before

no local bike shop . 82 nuovo mexico in red .... lovely

Admiral Ackbar?

ha ha ...... just spat me coffee out chuckling......

i doubt the bikes authenticity

^ X2^ that heart shape is not even central to the two large holes,can't say i've ever seen cable routed quite like that before either...

QR skewer directions make this a fishy post from the beginning

Oh that's alright then

Gotta agree. I've owned most Colnago over the years. That seat cluster is like nothing I have ever seen.

It's similar to that of an Oval CX model, though missing club cut outs and other differences

Agreed. Similar. But not the same.

Colnago of that period had very simple, smart, seat stay brazings. That stay cluster is a mess. Maybe its a Colnago, maybe it isn't.

But Colnago is the most 'faked' frame manufacturer.

Maybe it IS a Colnago.

But its not a Mexico.

who has a bag o'sand to spend on a maybe?

I can't define now what is right or wrong....i also tought that this was a Colnago, maybe some kind of model, not the México, the similarities are just on the decals with the Mexico model. Can anyone tell me which frame this could be by the bottom braket marks.

you need to start embracing the idea that this is not a Colnago

The scooped seat stay tops are very similar to Gios ones ?????
That BB shell doesn't look like any Colnago shell i've ever seen.

The lug itself is clumsy and quite chunky. Not graceful like a Colnago, Gios, Olmo or similar from that period. Could it be an American frame I wonder ?

The BB thread would give us more ideas.

Also advertised on retrobike..............same consensus, def not Colnago.

better check the rest of the collection is genuine

If you split, how much for the Colnago transfers?

Perhaps it is a Colin Ago bike?.....Flame throwers been out on Retrobike and they are a mild lot compared to LFGSS!

Hmm not even the front fork ends look right in the way the fork blades taper & are flat on the sides.

As said, that seat lug certainly look to be a Colnago, nor the tops of the rear seat stays either. The BB is a veritable puzzle.

I did have a Mexico but it was too big for me, & now can't recall it's exact details, except it had 1/2 chrome fork ends & seat stays, & that was pitted.

we should not be too hasty,
it could be a mythical beast, one of 3 alleged Colnago's made for the Sutton Male Balloon dancing team in '86

I hate to throw more water onto the obviously out of control chip pan, tho I cannot stop myself...bad toad....;)
Shouldn't you have smelt the kipper when you bought a 'racing' geometry frame...with a longer top tube than seat tube? that screams 'sedate' and not 'pointy'...I am reading what has been written correctly?
Hilly Ben is right you really have to start embracing that this exquisite 'pearl' is actually a 'pup'...

I once had a Colnago track frame- well, that's what the stickers said so it must be true.......the warm glow disappeared when there were obvious front mech pinch marks on the seat tube, graceful lugs yes, but no clover leaf engraving anywhere.

I guess it might have been parked next to a real Colnago at some stage in its life......

The head tube lugs look really heavy and not graceful enough either, and as diablo says...those fork ends are way way way wrong, they scream recent and I hate to say it...cheap...they look like they could bend easily...

On a lighter note...it's a nice collection of parts...just get a new frame...

this may be of help
http://saarf.net/2013/02/19/how-to-spot-a-fake-colnago/

Thank you saarf............ super link.............

no worries

Epic thread and thanks for that link saarf.

no worries fella, keep your chin up and have a Brandy on me

Too late to dibs? I guess it's gone by now...

Think you would make the poor chaps day !!!!

I think the decals have already been soaked off

Forget this pearl. Benotto 3000 is the real thing: http://www.lfgss.com/thread99466.html I've never seen a Benotto 3000 like this one...

Deore brakes (they look like sram force brake calipers to me??? What are you on amigo?
:)

I think the Benotto is a slightly different kettle of fish from the Colnago. Aside from the bike refurbishing with less than original paint, and stickers ...oh, and yes the fork doesn't belong here, there is another thing which puzzles me and that is the cable routing on the top tube. Most pre-mexican 3000's I have seen had cable loops on the top tube and not internal routing. In the early 80's some Benotto 3000 models had internal routing but whether these were made in Italy is a question. Having said that many good frames were built in Mexico as well...not all broke. Still think this looks like a 3000...but then I have been wrong before.

Not a 3000, imo: http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/vie...?f=47&t=237788

Well, I'll be...