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Old 18th February 2013   #1
jsntos

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Colnago México Vintage Steel Bicycle "Rolf Vector Pro"

Hi guys, i'm selling this marvellous Colnago México steel vintage bicycle from my private collection. This "pearl" comes equipped with:


- Shimano 105 groupset
- Shimano Deore brakes
- Rolf Vector Pro wheels and hubs
- Selle Italia saddle
- Dolce Vita saddle carbon spike
- TTT Stem
- Mattock carbon bottle of water cage
- Dropbars Cinelli Criterium classic
- Racing columbus SL geometry: 53cm Top Tube X 51cm Seat Tube

I'm asking: 1000 pounds + 41 pounds (shipping costs to any country on europe)

Any questions, please feel free to ask me anything. The bicycle is in Portugal.

Cheers






























Last edited by jsntos; 18th February 2013 at 02:43.
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Old 18th February 2013   #2
Masi
Allah ah bar
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Old 18th February 2013   #3
jsntos
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Allah ah bar
????
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Old 18th February 2013   #4
privatepattersondonor
 
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Allahu Akbar?
Takbir?
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Old 18th February 2013   #5
Hilly Bendonor
 
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Could you show if there is a club on the fork crown or cut out of the bottom bracket?
Does it say Colnago anywhere?

I doubt it
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Old 18th February 2013   #6
chancertime
I have...

looked at this bike four times.

And it's still not making any sense.

I will say though that the higher the asking price the more photographs
the seller should post (or link to). IMHO.
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Old 18th February 2013   #7
MRI
Mmmmmm doesn't seem to be like the super Mexico frame I have just got !!!!
No colnago markings on the frame ???
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Old 18th February 2013   #8
Hairingtons
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Mmmmmm doesn't seem to be like the super Mexico frame I have just got !!!!
Was that the Buy-It Now on ebay?
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Old 18th February 2013   #9
jsntos
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Could you show if there is a club on the fork crown or cut out of the bottom bracket?
Does it say Colnago anywhere?

I doubt it
1st point, i've bought this bike some year ago, and i can garantee to you that this is a Colnago, if it isn't the Mexico i don't know, but after some comparisons on the net, i see some identical points on it. For what i've known this bike has been refurbished, so the chrome parts on the back anchors are now black. I will post a photo of the bottom braket so you can see the colnago mark on it.
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Old 18th February 2013   #10
jsntos
Bottom Braket:

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Old 18th February 2013   #11
Dan W
Any pics of the similar frames? I'm not saying it's fake, but I've not seen any Colnago's like it before
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Old 18th February 2013   #12
MRI
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Was that the Buy-It Now on ebay?
no local bike shop . 82 nuovo mexico in red .... lovely
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Old 18th February 2013   #13
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Allahu Akbar?
Takbir?
Admiral Ackbar?
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Old 18th February 2013   #14
MRI
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Admiral Ackbar?
ha ha ...... just spat me coffee out chuckling......
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Old 18th February 2013   #15
saarfdonor
i doubt the bikes authenticity
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Old 18th February 2013   #16
readviewdonor
^ X2^ that heart shape is not even central to the two large holes,can't say i've ever seen cable routed quite like that before either...
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Old 18th February 2013   #17
TheCatsFlap
QR skewer directions make this a fishy post from the beginning
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Old 18th February 2013   #18
Hilly Bendonor
 
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i can garantee to you that this is a Colnago
Oh that's alright then
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Old 18th February 2013   #19
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the seat cluster alone is a big NO
Gotta agree. I've owned most Colnago over the years. That seat cluster is like nothing I have ever seen.
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Old 18th February 2013   #20
Dan W
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Gotta agree. I've owned most Colnago over the years. That seat cluster is like nothing I have ever seen.
It's similar to that of an Oval CX model, though missing club cut outs and other differences
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Old 18th February 2013   #21
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It's similar to that of an Oval CX model, though missing club cut outs and other differences
Agreed. Similar. But not the same.

Colnago of that period had very simple, smart, seat stay brazings. That stay cluster is a mess. Maybe its a Colnago, maybe it isn't.

But Colnago is the most 'faked' frame manufacturer.
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Old 18th February 2013   #22
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Maybe it IS a Colnago.

But its not a Mexico.
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Old 18th February 2013   #23
saarfdonor
who has a bag o'sand to spend on a maybe?
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Old 18th February 2013   #24
jsntos
I can't define now what is right or wrong....i also tought that this was a Colnago, maybe some kind of model, not the México, the similarities are just on the decals with the Mexico model. Can anyone tell me which frame this could be by the bottom braket marks.
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Old 18th February 2013   #25
Hilly Bendonor
 
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you need to start embracing the idea that this is not a Colnago
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Old 18th February 2013   #26
Roeburndale
The scooped seat stay tops are very similar to Gios ones ?????
That BB shell doesn't look like any Colnago shell i've ever seen.
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Old 18th February 2013   #27
FreeBornAde
 
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The lug itself is clumsy and quite chunky. Not graceful like a Colnago, Gios, Olmo or similar from that period. Could it be an American frame I wonder ?

The BB thread would give us more ideas.
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Old 18th February 2013   #28
Roeburndale
Also advertised on retrobike..............same consensus, def not Colnago.
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Old 19th February 2013   #29
saarfdonor
better check the rest of the collection is genuine
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Old 20th February 2013   #30
badpoppers
If you split, how much for the Colnago transfers?
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Old 20th February 2013   #31
marxist_vulcandonor
 
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Perhaps it is a Colin Ago bike?.....Flame throwers been out on Retrobike and they are a mild lot compared to LFGSS!
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Old 20th February 2013   #32
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Hmm not even the front fork ends look right in the way the fork blades taper & are flat on the sides.

As said, that seat lug certainly look to be a Colnago, nor the tops of the rear seat stays either. The BB is a veritable puzzle.

I did have a Mexico but it was too big for me, & now can't recall it's exact details, except it had 1/2 chrome fork ends & seat stays, & that was pitted.
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Old 20th February 2013   #33
Gift
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if you split, how much for the colnago transfers?
lol
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Old 20th February 2013   #34
saarfdonor
we should not be too hasty,
it could be a mythical beast, one of 3 alleged Colnago's made for the Sutton Male Balloon dancing team in '86
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Old 21st February 2013   #35
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I hate to throw more water onto the obviously out of control chip pan, tho I cannot stop myself...bad toad....;)
Shouldn't you have smelt the kipper when you bought a 'racing' geometry frame...with a longer top tube than seat tube? that screams 'sedate' and not 'pointy'...I am reading what has been written correctly?
Hilly Ben is right you really have to start embracing that this exquisite 'pearl' is actually a 'pup'...
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Old 21st February 2013   #36
El_Diablodonor
 
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I once had a Colnago track frame- well, that's what the stickers said so it must be true.......the warm glow disappeared when there were obvious front mech pinch marks on the seat tube, graceful lugs yes, but no clover leaf engraving anywhere.

I guess it might have been parked next to a real Colnago at some stage in its life......
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Old 21st February 2013   #37
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Hmm not even the front fork ends look right in the way the fork blades taper & are flat on the sides.
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The head tube lugs look really heavy and not graceful enough either, and as diablo says...those fork ends are way way way wrong, they scream recent and I hate to say it...cheap...they look like they could bend easily...

On a lighter note...it's a nice collection of parts...just get a new frame...

Last edited by Wingedangel; 21st February 2013 at 21:37. Reason: trying to add levity..and some sort of hug...
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Old 22nd February 2013   #39
aidanmc
Thank you saarf............ super link.............
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Old 22nd February 2013   #40
saarfdonor
no worries
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Old 22nd February 2013   #41
jCymbal
 
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Epic thread and thanks for that link saarf.
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Old 22nd February 2013   #42
saarfdonor
no worries fella, keep your chin up and have a Brandy on me
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Old 22nd February 2013   #43
specialegg
Too late to dibs? I guess it's gone by now...
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Old 22nd February 2013   #44
MRI
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Too late to dibs? I guess it's gone by now...
Think you would make the poor chaps day !!!!
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Old 22nd February 2013   #45
Dan W
I think the decals have already been soaked off
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Old 22nd February 2013   #46
Gift
Forget this pearl. Benotto 3000 is the real thing: http://www.lfgss.com/thread99466.html I've never seen a Benotto 3000 like this one...
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Old 23rd February 2013   #47
ma9n3t
 
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Deore brakes (they look like sram force brake calipers to me??? What are you on amigo?
:)
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Old 23rd February 2013   #48
Tobbedonor
 
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I think the Benotto is a slightly different kettle of fish from the Colnago. Aside from the bike refurbishing with less than original paint, and stickers ...oh, and yes the fork doesn't belong here, there is another thing which puzzles me and that is the cable routing on the top tube. Most pre-mexican 3000's I have seen had cable loops on the top tube and not internal routing. In the early 80's some Benotto 3000 models had internal routing but whether these were made in Italy is a question. Having said that many good frames were built in Mexico as well...not all broke. Still think this looks like a 3000...but then I have been wrong before.
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Old 23rd February 2013   #49
Gift
Not a 3000, imo: http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/vie...?f=47&t=237788
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Old 23rd February 2013   #50
Tobbedonor
 
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Well, I'll be...
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