How can we get more people to take up cycle training?

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    1. You can do an emergency stop, what brake do you use? Shimano

    2. You are passing a side road, whereabouts would cycle training now advise you pass? At the test centre

    3. Where’s the chain on the easiest gear combination of your multi-geared bike? On the sprocket of the hub gear

    4. On your journey there are 10 junction turns you make- how many times do you indicate? Orange

    5. What turn is unusual for vehicles but easy and common for bikes? Handlebars

    6. There is a best place to ride in queuing traffic- where is it? On the hoods

    7. What 3 reasons is this best place to ride? Cheerful

    8. Youre turning left of a main road- wheres your hands? End of my arms

    9. Of the 2 positions to ride on the road, which is the dominant one that sounds like your first school? High Stile Junior

    10. And which submissive one matches the name of the most mature school? King Edward VI Grammar

    11. What 2 bike care actions keep you rolling better than anything else? Lock and insurance

    12. Where do you want to avoid going into whilst on the road? A shamanic trance

    13. Which green box isn’t always the answer to a better journey? Parliament Menthols

    14. What might happen to most of the urban cycle lanes you come across? The green colour might fade over time

    15. Which famous tube station instruction would we be best advised to take? Report any suspicious packages

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  • When the training is delivered to schools there is no follow up, no days out on bikes organised or other activities to show to the kids the kinds of fun that can be had cycling.

    +1!

  • ^ Used to do a L3ish holiday scheme in Cov Council for L2 riders, which ended on day 5 with a ride out of town, putting the theory into real practice.

    It wasn't complete exposure to life on Coventrys busier roads, but better than nowt & a nice follow-up to the schools sessions.

  • Why do more people need to take up cycle training?

    Will demand not naturally grow as cycling for transport becomes ever popular?

  • Many people are either not aware that training exists and would help them overcome their fear of cycling or make their cycling more efficient

  • I suppose there needs to be a balance between actual usefulness and the public's perception of being 'forced' (encouraged) to go through with it.

    I'm sure most drivers who don't cycle would agree with you that more people should have cycle training, especially on a compulsory basis.

  • Yes of course some drivers do think anyone who cycles should get training (like they had to to drive). What they don't think is that they can harm other people and do harm thousands through their choice of transportation but people who cycle rarely harm. They also don't think that if people had to train before cycling fewer people would cycle so more would drive = congestion!

    Few cycle trainers would support training compulsion, most would recommend training as a route to more efficient cycling.

    I suppose the question is why so few appreciate the value of input from an expert in urban cycling skills whereas in many other fields no one would doubt the benefit of ... say guitar tuition, or language teaching or fencing coaching

  • I suppose the question is why so few appreciate the value of input from an expert in urban cycling skills whereas in many other fields no one would doubt the benefit of ... say guitar tuition, or language teaching or fencing coaching

    Excellent question. In most countries, instructors and coaches are respected for their knowledge and hard work they put in to the furthering of that knowledge and experience.

    I'm sure driving instructors here are more 'tolerated' rather than respected, whereas sports coaches, instructors and trainers are often looked at with derision and suspicion. How many people snigger with dismissal when someone says they're a personal trainer?

    All part of the UK society attitude that "I know what's best for me". Probably something to do with the war.

  • we have peculiar attitudes here. the "those that can, do. those that can't, teach" being a prime example. there is also the gentleman/players notion, that people should just demonstrate their innate ability rather than train to improve themselves (including taking instruction)

  • The proliferation of piss-poor pseudo-experts doesn't help, whether they're doers, teachers, or both. I don't know if it's a lack of self-awareness, insecurity about admitting gaps in expertise, or just con-merchantry and exploitation.

  • The one begat the other.

    I see poor practice all the time, the mistakes stemming from lack of knowledge don't bother me half as much as the unwillingness to learn from those mistakes. Dropping the ego is obviously seen as a weakness and an admission of incompetence, when in reality it's neither.

  • Yes a core element in a good coach/teacher/instructor/trainer is that of reflective practice, of ongoing development through the understanding that there is no such thing as a perfect session.

    A good trainer learns much from their students. They admit a knowledge gap where one exists. Trainers do need some ego and good self knowledge

    1. Both.

    2. After the side road.

    3. SS.

      1. Unless the turn is particularly quiet AND OR difficult to balance with one hand on the handlebars whilst turning.

    The latter is a recurring mistake that I need to work on which is due mostly to not thinking far enough ahead.

    1. Maneuvering from one side of a lane to another.

    2. There is a best place to ride in queuing traffic- where is it?

    3. The centre of your lane. The "Primary riding position".

    4. To discourage cars trying to squeeze past.

    5. Simplify the cyclists decision making process at a junction i.e. instead of staying left if turning left and right if turning right etc.

    6. Make yourself more visible to cars queuing behind you, so you don't get "pushed" onto the curb.

    7. One on the right handle with fingers over front brake lever. The other in the air, signalling left.

    8. Primary (in the centre of the road).

    9. Secondary (Somewhere between the centre of the road and the curb)

    10. Cleaning, tightening and oiling my chain. Also cleaning my wheel rims with Surgical Spirit and inflating my tyres occasionally.

    McDonalds. The back of a car. An open passenger door, as well as a removals van with a ramp.
    Seriously: The wrong lane. National Speed limit roads. Footpaths and narrow 2 way stretches of road. The bit between an HGV and a
    bend.

    1. The cyclist box at the traffic lights. Because of undertaking.

    2. Get busier, hopefully.

    3. Dunno who jmf is and I live in Newcarstle.

  • Surely the answer to #4 is "as many times as necessary, given the circumstances".

    Q5. Pedal turn, and Nocturne. ;)

  • Send you the answers later Andy, as yes you're right.

  • Really helpful thanks!

  • What was ?
    The aim of the quiz is to get grey matter moving as well.
    If you are curious as to the answers p.m me.

  • Thanks for the PM j.m.f.

    I agreed with most of them especially:

    1. Gaps between parked vehicles

    I'm always tempted by those, especially when tired towards the end of a decent ride.

  • The one begat the other.

    I see poor practice all the time, the mistakes stemming from lack of knowledge don't bother me half as much as the unwillingness to learn from those mistakes. Dropping the ego is obviously seen as a weakness and an admission of incompetence, when in reality it's neither.

    Obviously

    1. You can do an emergency stop, what brake do you use?-

    All of them

    1. You are passing a side road, whereabouts would cycle training now advise you pass?

    Somewhere visable

    1. Where’s the chain on the easiest gear combination of your multi-geared bike
      a) Front cog-smallest/ rear cog- biggest or b) front cog-biggest/ rear cog- smallest?

    neither

    1. On your journey there are 10 junction turns you make- how many times do you indicate?

    Multiple options tick as many boxes please

    1. What turn is unusual for vehicles but easy and common for bikes?

    I don't know - turn up on time ?

    1. There is a best place to ride in queuing traffic- where is it?

    Depends on where is it

    1. What 3 reasons is this best place to ride?

    There are more than 3 reasons

    1. Youre turning left of a main road- wheres your hands?

    Depends on where you are

    1. Of the 2 positions to ride on the road, which is the dominant one that sounds like your first school?

    Play group

    1. And which submissive one matches the name of the most mature school?

    Gutter Street High

    1. What 2 bike care actions keep you rolling better than anything else?

    Tyres and brakes

    1. Where do you want to avoid going into whilst on the road?

    Too much choice - err a pothole

    1. Which green box isn’t always the answer to a better journey?

    When the green box is a fucking plastic carrier bag

    1. What might happen to most of the urban cycle lanes you come across?

    they appear to go off the edge of the world

    Which famous tube station instruction would we be best advised to take?
    jmf ‘Being the rider drivers wish they could be’

  • Why can't the CTC/LCC do something like this?

  • Not LCC/CTC this guidance should be in the highway code and in the driving test.

  • Every lane is a bike lane....brilliant, should be in public eye/papers and as sky dancer says ^.

  • Not LCC/CTC this guidance should be in the highway code and in the driving test.

    Then why do they not speak of this more often?

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