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  • The teams for the 2013 WorldTour as awarded by the UCI today. (via @TourDeJose)

    UCI #1's Joaquim Rodriguez Oliver's team Katusha’s application was denied. They were also denied a ProContinental license. That request goes back to licensing committee (!)

    The WT-peloton 2013 is:

    The Netherlands
    [strike]Rabo/white label[/strike] Blanco pro cycling team
    Vacansoleil-DCM
    Argos-Shimano

    USA
    BMC Racing Team
    Garmin-Sharp

    Belgium
    Omega Pharma-Quick Step
    Lotto-Belisol

    France
    FDJ
    Ag2R-la Mondiale

    Spain
    Team Movistar
    Euskaltel

    Italy
    Lampre-Merida
    Cannondale

    Australia
    Orica-Greenedge

    Kazachstan
    Astana

    Denmark
    Saxo-Tinkoff

    Great Britain
    Team SKY

    Luxembourg
    Radioshack-Nissan-Trek

  • cyclingnews.com/news/how-worl­d-series-cycling-plans-to-reinvent-the-s­port

    "An awful lot of people out there who have heard of Bradley Wiggins, who have heard of Mark Cavendish but if you asked them to provide you with a lucid explanation of who's the best at what they struggled to explain it to you. The whole sport needs to simplify itself. The message is too complicated right now. "

    Really?

  • so what's up with Katusha not making the cut?

  • UCI has still to explain, no reason given. They judge all teams by sportive, financial, administrative en ethical criteria. Curious as to which one they failed to meet and how.

  • no europcar, its not the same without tiny tommy voeckler

  • europcar were a pro conti team. hopefully they still get an invite for the tdf, or have they folded? tommy v is a legend.

    I reckon Katusha failed the ethical part, with their recent drug results.

  • Remains to be seen whether Rodriguez will jump ship. He finished top of the UCI rankings and made the podium in 2 GTs, now he has to rely on wild card entries to ride the Giro et al.

    [editLooks like Purito will jump ship, although who can afford him/have space left on their rosters for him. Cannondale? There seems to be a gap there with the departure of Nibali

  • good piece on inrng about turning professional cycling into a format all non-interested people will understand: inrng.com/2012/12/world-series-cy­cling-plans/

  • Subbed.
    Can't wait for things to kick off, bored.

  • UCI has still to explain, no reason given. They judge all teams by sportive, financial, administrative en ethical criteria. Curious as to which one they failed to meet and how.

    I think they just weren't put in.

  • Katusha out but Saxobank in?

    Fucked up, surely?

  • Katusha are kicking off big time: top rider for the year and second in the team ranking, and they're outside the top 15? They may not score very highly on the 'ethical' factor but they're no worse than say Astana or Saxo. Must be politically motivated, or financially (Saxo greased the right palm) and it will go to the Court of Arbitration

  • Riis has got nine lives all right. Admitted to doping during his riding career, Hamilton accused Riis of introducing him to Fuentes, his top rider failing a drugs test and Saxo failing to acrew any/many UCI ranking points. Yet he still escapes sanction, has no trouble attracting sponsors and gets a World Tour license.

    I'd imagine Katusha's non-invite has got something to do with Makarov being a rival to McQuaid/Verbruggen ?

  • Anyone seeing shades of Hinault Lemond in 86, when The Badger was supposed to be helping Lemond win the Tour, after Lemond had rode himself into the ground the year previously, but he put him through the wringer whilst doing so, in Wiggins statement that he wants to defend his tour title next year.
    guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/dec­/13/bradley-wiggins-tour-de-france-2013

    Will it be a case of Wiggins helping Froome, if he's good/strong enough? Rather than the unqualified help of an experienced 2nd in command?

  • cyclingnews.com/news/how-worl­d-series-cycling-plans-to-reinvent-the-s­port

    "An awful lot of people out there who have heard of Bradley Wiggins, who have heard of Mark Cavendish but if you asked them to provide you with a lucid explanation of who's the best at what they struggled to explain it to you. The whole sport needs to simplify itself. The message is too complicated right now. "
    Really?

    Football fans will give you the incomes of every player on their team, how many minutes before each goal was scored, the number of hookers their team's manager bedded last season, the torque delivered by their star striker's sportscar and any number of other pointless figures.

    I really think cycling fans are doing ok.

  • Good to see Wiggle as a title sponsor for the Honda ladies team with Laura Trott et al. on board.

  • Anyone seeing shades of Hinault Lemond in 86, when The Badger was supposed to be helping Lemond win the Tour, after Lemond had rode himself into the ground the year previously, but he put him through the wringer whilst doing so, in Wiggins statement that he wants to defend his tour title next year.
    guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/dec­/13/bradley-wiggins-tour-de-france-2013

    Will it be a case of Wiggins helping Froome, if he's good/strong enough? Rather than the unqualified help of an experienced 2nd in command?

    As I understand it, Sky agree objectives for each rider at the start of the season and stick with that plan as much as they can.

    Personally, if I was Dave Brailsford, I'd tell Froome he needs to win some stage races before I was confident in his ability to win the Tour as he needs to show the team that he can cope with the pressure of leadership and expectation.

  • As I understand it, Sky agree objectives for each rider at the start of the season and stick with that plan as much as they can.

    Personally, if I was Dave Brailsford, I'd tell Froome he needs to win some stage races before I was confident in his ability to win the Tour as he needs to show the team that he can cope with the pressure of leadership and expectation.

    Good shout. Although he would have been faigued at the Vuelta I thought he and Sky made a right pig's ear of it tactically, certainly compared to the execution at the Tour. Obviously Froome isn't solely to blame, but I do remember that idiotic stage that ended on a race circuit when he did multiple turns at the front to deliver Swift to the line. They almost split the field but didn't manage and got swamped at the end, and Degenkolb took the win. It was amateur hour really. Froome needs to show he can lead a team and make good decisions on the road.

  • As I understand it, Sky agree objectives for each rider at the start of the season and stick with that plan as much as they can.

    Personally, if I was Dave Brailsford, I'd tell Froome he needs to win some stage races before I was confident in his ability to win the Tour as he needs to show the team that he can cope with the pressure of leadership and expectation.
    I think a very strong showing in Tour de Suisse or Dauphine would show if Froome is a top 3 for Tour!

  • Good shout. Although he would have been faigued at the Vuelta I thought he and Sky made a right pig's ear of it tactically, certainly compared to the execution at the Tour. Obviously Froome isn't solely to blame, but I do remember that idiotic stage that ended on a race circuit when he did multiple turns at the front to deliver Swift to the line. They almost split the field but didn't manage and got swamped at the end, and Degenkolb took the win. It was amateur hour really. Froome needs to show he can lead a team and make good decisions on the road.
    Froome was def fatigued, but even fresher doubt he could of done much about Contador who was on fire!

  • Froome was def fatigued, but even fresher doubt he could of done much about Contador who was on fire!

    On fire, or on the good shit?

  • hope the tests will prove it was only fire, because I enjoyed that kind of racing very much...

    further discussion on other things than fire >> doping thread?

  • hope the tests will prove it was only fire, because I enjoyed that kind of racing very much...

    further discussion on other things than fire >> doping thread?

    Wasn't discussing it, just making a joke/insinuation about it.

    And that's the problem with dopers: they're great to watch

    Perhaps that should be in the doping thread....

  • meanwhile, everything cosy at team Sky? I'm getting the feeling their two top guns absolutely hate each other...

    telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersp­orts/cycling/9742893/Poll-should-Bradley­-Wiggins-or-Chris-Froome-lead-Team-Sky-a­t-next-years-Tour-de-France.html

    telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersp­orts/cycling/bradley-wiggins/9744211/Bra­dley-Wiggins-wants-to-defend-Tour-de-Fra­nce-title-but-Team-Sky-stick-by-Chris-Fr­oome.html

    All good in the hood I think. Not the first time a team has had two leaders, and if one of them crashes out early Sky have a plan B, unlike they did in 2011. The fact there's some needle between them is just added spice, more interesting then watching their missus' exchange blows on Twitter anyway. Lemond/Hinault, Roche/Visentini anyone?

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