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  • Agree to an extent, but the proliferation of vertical finishes at last years Vuelta was a bit silly. More like a circus than a bike race. And the best day of racing was actually on a more moderate stage.

    Anyway, I don't have a problem with the route. Should be good. Barring a ban, I will put my money down now on Contador.

  • This could be a very tasty Tour, Brailsford will prob be thinking of how to neutralize the Spanish climbers. Twice up the Alpe on the same day, wow! Will Brad target the Giro & support Froome?

  • The Alpe isn't that hard, it's an even graded wide road with a beautiful surface, so is more suited to a steady climber like Wiggins. The summit finish on the Semnoz is more challenging.

  • Agree to an extent, but the proliferation of vertical finishes at last years Vuelta was a bit silly. More like a circus than a bike race. And the best day of racing was actually on a more moderate stage.

    Anyway, I don't have a problem with the route. Should be good. Barring a ban, I will put my money down now on Contador.

    Nonsense, it's a savage race. Always has been. Rider Octave Lapize saw the route in 1910 and said: "You are murderers! Yes, murderers!"

    HTFU

  • They should go back to the good old days... starting in the early hours, riding for almost a whole day, no outside assistance. Riders these days are fucking soft.

  • Think they might be hinting at that by having the longest stage finish on Mont Ventoux.

  • They should go back to the good old days... starting in the early hours, riding for almost a whole day, no outside assistance. Riders these days are fucking soft.

    They're not soft, but we have lost something. There's a wonderful charm to the idea of them all setting off, no domestiques to drag them to the line, no team car with replacement bikes, boxes of gels or live video streams.

    I'd love to see a big, week-long event where riders had to compete on their own, fix punctures, grab their own drink from aid stations...

  • Also, if the etape does that stage there's going to be a pile of dead middle-management MAMILs at the foot of Ventoux next summer.

  • Agree to an extent, but the proliferation of vertical finishes at last years Vuelta was a bit silly. More like a circus than a bike race. And the best day of racing was actually on a more moderate stage.

    This. But this looks a good route, most of it we've already heard about in rumour. Glad they didn't shelve the Champs srpint stage for a MTF though

  • They're not soft, but we have lost something. There's a wonderful charm to the idea of them all setting off, no domestiques to drag them to the line, no team car with replacement bikes, boxes of gels or live video streams.

    I'd love to see a big, week-long event where riders had to compete on their own, fix punctures, grab their own drink from aid stations...

    How would you 'see' it though? It wouldn't get on the television.

  • I have spent years trying, in vain, to enthuse others with my love of cycling and so why is it that now, when everyone is suddenly interested and excited by cycling, that I feel a little miffed?

    All the newbies are clean and you are still on drugs?

  • How would you 'see' it though? It wouldn't get on the television.

    Of course it would be on television. Why not? I'm not saying don't televise it.

  • Teams/Riders will only prioritise races in the calendar that have TV coverage. For good TV you want action. Your Super-Audax would probably make for a great documentary (like RAAM) but that's about it.

    This is a nice insight into why races have had to change over the years.

  • Also, if the etape does that stage there's going to be a pile of dead middle-management MAMILs at the foot of Ventoux next summer.

    As amusing as it would be to send the etape crowd on a 242km ride finishing on top of the ventoux, the organisers have seen sense and opted for stage 20.

    letour.fr/le-tour/2013/us/sta­ge-20.html

  • I'll be in Valance for the 15th Stage as they head through to Mont Ventoux. Going to be killer. Then back up to Paris a few days later to catch the final sunset roll in. ACE

  • Riders should not have communication through ear pieces, its too controlled, i remember a stage around 2000 when Armstrong panicked & they had to contact Ferrari as to whether Lance should pursue Pantani! Dr Evil said The little Italian couldn"t maintain the pace don"t panic you will catch him! Wouldn"t it of been better if Lance hadn"t had the info & maybe went for it & blew up! A much more exiciting race. I say ditch the radio communication between rider & team director. Its was a much better sport in my opinion in the 80"s alot more wild west.. ps regarding the riders are soft now a days, nonsense. As Robert Millar said in his excellence articles for Cyclingnews, Team Sky set such a high pace on many stages it was simply impossible to attack, riders were hanging on to the pace..

  • Wiggins has announced on his facebook page he will "probably concentrate on the giro next year".

  • Did you see Wiggins' coat? Sod the Giro, the title he's going for is King of the Mods

  • Brailsford asked on Channel 4 news about running a clean team. "we won"t set a time limit" huh? how long does it take to ask Rogers & Yates. If they don"t go Team Sky are gonna look piss poor..

  • What was the question?

  • He was asked specifically about Rogers and Yates, then about timescales.

    He stated he'd not set deadlines when he announced the idea. I imagine they'll only ask the questions when they've dug into the background at least a little. How else can they hope to spot the lies?

  • Maybe Brailsford can give Rogers the benefit of the doubt about Ferrari or at least time to explain. But Sean Yates has failed a drugs test! He should be out on his ear..

  • It is ridiculous and hypocritical to turf Rogers out on his ear given the job of work he did for Wiggins at the Tour. They new full well his background when they hired him.

  • I find it odd Yates has said i saw nothing at Discovery/ US Postal considering doping was rife. Indurian & Contador backing Armstrong i find that very odd, then again Contador has failed! Big Mig was he a doper?

  • But Sean Yates has failed a drugs test!

    Not exactly. He had an adverse analytical finding in his A sample, but not confirmed by B sample

    Big Mig was he a doper?

    Only one +ve test, and for salbutamol which wasn't on the UCI banned list at the time. On the other hand, he won tours after EPO became rife but before there was a test for it, and he is now protesting that a lack of analytical positives makes Armstrong not guilty in spite of massive circumstantial evidence, so do the maths. Mig is in the clear for being sanctioned due to the passage of time, but if people start confessing everything from ancient history there might be a big question mark over his results.

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