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  • Cannot find enough details to verify this hunch,
    but being born, and presumably raised, in Nairobi, elevation 1660 metres,
    Froome could have a better red blood cell count than his notional twin raised pretty much at sea level.
    Add to this physical advantage the training regime of Sky
    and the continual 1% improvements in diet, recovery, preparation, equipment,
    and knowing where his red line is at all times on a climb.........

    (Warning could all be bollocks if he was born in Nairobi then raised in Mombasa, at sea level).

    My understanding is that the benefits of altitude acclimatisation dissipate after two weeks. There is no benefit to being born and raised at altitude that would perpetuate throughout life. See this: inrng.com/2013/04/colombia-cyclin­g-altitude/

  • I know nothing about the science, but I think he grew up in South Africa. At least, I think that's what I heard Alex Dowsett say on the radio before the tour.

    He moved to Jo'burg in his teens to attend school there.

    Which is 1700 metres above sea level.

  • Phil or Paul (yeah, I dabbled in ITV land) said something about him having a bad TT position. I chuckled and then threw a bottle of piss at the TV.

    I think he looks a whole lot better/more efficient on his TT bike than on his normal bike

  • You mean the convicted doper, Contador?

    Indeed. Not such a strong tt-er these days is he?

  • Frankly this thread has sucked hairy balls for about two days. Doping gossip can do one. It was a blessed relief yesterday when disgruntled Frenchies started lobbing bodily fluids about.

  • He moved to Jo'burg in his teens to attend school there.

    Which is 1700 metres above sea level.

    Fucking arm chair geographer.

    (not getting old).

  • Why don't you go and do some reading about physiological improvements?

    You know, background reading. From experts.

    That might help your comprehension.

    To be fair, Science of sport haven't ruled out doping with their estimated calcs. It could go either way and it's all just educated guess work if Sky don't release power data.

  • To be fair, Science of sport haven't ruled out doping with their estimated calcs. It could go either way and it's all just educated guess work if Sky don't release power data.

    This.

    But Little Englanders will always give Froome the benefit of the doubt, despite the fact he is Kenyan.

    Anyway, that is my last comment on the matter in this thread as I am boring myself now.

  • We will never know for sure if Froome is clean, it's impossible to prove definitively.

    Unless he tests positive or his team dobs him in or he confesses or..

  • If you look at where Froome has come from, then if anyone can make larger gains it's him. He showed in his first Tour that he had a decent engine.

    Apparently never visited a wind tunnel until this year, if you can believe it..

  • What's marginal about their training load? It's abusive and has made some of their riders very ill.

    The 'we train harder' thing doesn't wash with me. It's insulting to the other riders.

  • They do look like they have less fun.

  • Unless he tests positive or his team dobs him in or he confesses or..

    So that would be proving that he isn't clean, no?

  • Come on, Tim!

  • 2012 TDF, ITT. Froome comes second to Wiggins (Martin pulled out). 2012 Men's Olympic TT. Froome comes third to Wiggins and Martin. 2013 TDF, Froome comes second to Martin (no Wiggins racing).
    Not sure what's surprising about his performance?

    When did he sign with Sky? He was 2nd to Dowsett in the British TT champs in 2010 and what did he do in 2009?

    I think he's been genetically engineered in a secret laboratory in Kenya. The same place the produces all their runners. They just tried a different mold.

  • Anyway, sprint stage today. I want Cavendish to win, mainly to see what celebration he comes up with following the events over the past two days.

    I wonder how much the fine would be if he crossed the line with his cock in his hand, pissing on the Argos riders?

    I want Gossy to win because the poor bloke must be getting tired of being an also-ran. If that fails though, Cav to win because he's more fun in interviews than Gripe All and Kit Hell.

  • When did he sign with Sky? He was 2nd to Dowsett in the British TT champs in 2010 and what did he do in 2009?

    I think he's been genetically engineered in a secret laboratory in Kenya. The same place the produces all their runners. They just tried a different mold.

    Huh? Are you quoting my out of context or have you misunderstood my post? I went back to last year because that's what I remember off the top of my head. My point is, he's finishing in TTs exactly where you'd expect him to.

  • The EPO does seem easier....

    Do Boots sell that?

  • No, but Super Drug do

  • Assume he's probably choc full of taurine and sugar at that stage too Hippy?

    Caffeine certainly.

  • It's not digitised.
    His arse was so wrecked they had to build him a new one from Lego.

    There's one display that won't appear at Legoland.

  • I think he looks a whole lot better/more efficient on his TT bike than on his normal bike

    That's because they nail his stick-insect elbows to the armrests.

  • Frankly this thread has sucked hairy balls for about two days. Doping gossip can do one. It was a blessed relief yesterday when disgruntled Frenchies started lobbing bodily fluids about.

    Dope Dope
    Dope Dope
    Everyone Likes Dope

  • They do look like they have less fun.

    #OGERocks

  • So that would be proving that he isn't clean, no?

    That's my point.

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