Thanks. I guess it'd be hardly a recommendation if I had. Good point.
Hey thanks skipper, that's an interesting story. The Italian School of Motoring sounds like the title of a cosy comic novel - shame they renamed it! The shopfront is amazing. I'm looking for jobs in London at the moment (architecture part II if anyone knows anything) so it's a race to see whether I pass my test or get a job first. If I end up near Clerkenwell Road before I get a licence, I'll check them out.
snotty, I will, I will! At the moment I feel like I have no control or awareness where the edge of the car is, and I can hardly tell how much my foot is down. It seems to go down most when I'm changing gear... Never mind, I've got two hours on Monday.
Agree with your overtaking advice btw, I hate it when drivers take ages to pass.
I'm always right ;-)
Foot control will take a little while but you can practice at home kinda, just pretend and make the delicate movements, also get a big dinner plate to practice pull-push steering and visualise doing it. It all re-enforces the same connections in your brain. Always make sure you've got a heel on the floor at the start of the pedal stroke, wear soft soled trainers and get your seating position dead on.
Being a cyclist is always a big help as you'll have decent road awarness already, so once you've get the controls half sorted you'll have a good advantage, just substitute shoulder checks for mirror checks. And use moar gas!
Yes yes to the thin soft soles - a few times I had to have lessons after work so was wearing steelies; it was like having binary pedals! I'm surprised Mike didn't ask for extra to cover the clutch-wear.
I've tried driving in my biking shoes, not easy
when i first started i used to drive in them rubber shoes designed for wereing in the sea, think windsurfers where them, realy helped as you felt the peddles really well,
mine where nicer btw, and black and it was summer
Graeme, I don't have those but I do have some canvas shoes which were very much better than the heavy winter shoes that I wore last time. Biking shoes/builder boots I'll leave for the advanced course. I have started noticing the noises and remember being a passenger, so for changing gears and things as long as I'm making the right noises I'm halfway there.
feel the force...
I am about to do likewise, will give this chap a call when my replacement provisional comes through..
Can't be that hard..?!
Bumping this long dead thread, as I too am after a driving instructor.... had one lesson with a lad from BSM who was a bit of a chances, waffled on about his brother the dentist, the house he bought, football, and various other things I could not give two shits about on my first driving lesson. He also stank, and had bad wind.
Will check out the Italian place as I like the sound of that, but if anyone else has any recommendations...
Are there any LDC instructors nearby, it's who I used to work for and they're a good company with a nice, structured way of learning.
I recommend these guys: carcaptain.com/Intensive_driving.html
(Expensive but very professional, take care of all the test booking and other rigmarole)
Used them and now I am legally permitted to run over cyclists.
really need to learn to drive. I have always been told that those fast track courses have high rates of failure though?
Having done one and failed the test, I still think it is a great way to learn, as you get to really build up good habits and skills.
I'm sure everyone says this, but I would say I am far better at driving than most people who hold a license, but I have failed twice. My feeling now is that passing the test is an incredibly capricious thing and I CBA anymore
surely after spending all that money you would want to actually pass?
Have literally no need of it in London, and have not felt limited otherwise by not having a car. So I guess the motivation to re-sit isn't there, especially as both times I have failed have been, I would say, 50/50 decisions on the part of the examiner - so it feels like chucking good money after bad.
It doesn't have to be fast track, I'd say the best way is to do 2 or 3, 2 hour lessons per week, 1a week is too little and you spend most of the time remembering what you did last week, a lot depends on you and your attention span, take little breaks in the lessons too, it's very difficult to concentrate on not killing people whilst learning new skills at the same time for more than about 20 minutes.
I dont have time for more than one lesson a week... want to try and pass my test pretty quickly though so I can buy my pizza delivery van.
Had one go and driving, didn't seam too hard, once it's explained how its done just do it that way. Job done.
^Famous last words
You had one go? it's not hard, but there's a shit load of people out there who've taken 50 lessons and still manage to fail 3 tests. Making a car go along isn't hard, but learning how to be aware of everything around you whilst doing three things at once takes some practice and that'll only come with time. Do more than 1 lesson per week if you possibly can, keeps it fresh. It's stressful, learning, I used to sweat like Jimmy Savile at a Stoke Mandeville open day. Passed first time after 9 lessons though... Good luck
Knowing how to ride as traffic will help, I used to try and get people to pretend to be a car on their bike a lot. Teaching cyclists was easier as they had an idea as to how roads worked, it was the way to move a car that was the awkward bit. If you can only do one lesson a week then try to do three hours at a time but take three or four little breaks, you'll be wasting less time overall even if it seems like more.
Cheers for the tips chap, I imagine as a road user I would have a little bit of a clue how they (cars) work. The first instructor was a bit anti bike too which really pissed me off- "Why doesn't everyone just drive?" which shows both a lack of respect and understanding, should of given him a clip round the ear for that one...
9 lesson pass sounds pretty crazy, I think the average for someone my age is around 45 hours (I'm 34)? so a little over 20 lessons... if I can get it in 15 I will be happy.
9 lessons was 9 hours for me, you might be just fine. I passed aged 17, I'm now 36. Most important thing is to relax and find an instructor who you get along with, you've gotta sit next to them for a fair time
9 hours is insane good! Nice work.... as I said, I was told I should expect 45 hours, that can kinda do one though.
Off for a lesson with the Italian lads tomo, I like Italian things, so I assume I will like an Italian driving instructor.
9 hours is very quick, average is 30 to 40, quickest I taught someone was about 20 but that was quite an intensive course.
Riding a bike will help loads, I always used to encourage people to get out and ride like they were in a car as it gave them an understanding of how the roads work without having to pay me. Teaching people who rode was always easier and quicker, once you get how to move a car about then you're 90% there, whereas people who didn't ride still had another 80% to go.
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