2011-04-05 - Rider Down/Fatality, Camden Road

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  • I work on St P Way and have to admit to being oblivious at the time. This is awful. RIP to the poor lady who lost her life.

    Obviously we don't know what happened here and I wouldn't want to guess but please please stay well clear of long vehicles if you can.

  • terrible news. RIP.
    stay safe everyone.

  • R.I.P
    Horrific waste of life

  • Awful. Rest in peace.

  • OMG! Condolences to the friends and family of this poor woman.

    Despite some comments, Boris's people are doing some things to help reduce the number of these horrors. We think they are close to including on-bike cycle training in the lorry driver CPC courses run by TfL, if they can get the approval from the authorities. We need to keep pushing for councils and companies to take up this training.

    Ed mentioned that this is the 8th death for 2011 recorded in this forum. The official stats will only count 5 of these, of the others one was a pedestrian, one happened outside the London GLA boundary and one is believed to be 'natural causes' - something like a heart attack or stroke. In the same time around 20 pedestrians have been killed, at least 5 of them hit by lorries.

  • R.I.P. terrible terrible tragedy... something needs to be done, about lorries and the attitude of drivers in the capital full stop.

  • R.I.P - Terrible waste of life.

    Get on to the LCC petition if you haven't already!

  • sad, needless waste. condolences to her loved ones

  • Tragic, RIP

  • FFS. When will Boris do something about lorries in London.

    RIP

    When one his mate's children suffer in the same way.

    RIP

  • sad news. lets try and keep the (possibly neccessary) lorrygeddon comments to a low hum, or take it elsewhere. families of those concerened may read this.

  • More work needs to be done to educate cyclists too.

  • More work needs to be done to educate cyclists too.

    Yeah, I only got a B in Geography at school.

    (not trying to derail or trivialise the tragic loss of life which occurred yesterday).

    I witness too many close calls and just hope that one day we start to see an end to these incidents.

    Condolences to all involved in the Rider Down threads over the years.

  • R.I.P
    This is terrible news. WHat a horrible year we're having. I've no faith in Boris to fix anything anymore. He's the man who got rid of the CVEU for a mere £1m savings.

  • This is just awful. My heart goes out to this poor woman and her family and friends. What a tragedy.

    This year isn't great, is it? I feel like we're all waiting and waiting for someone to take a lead on this and organise something big to say 'this can't go on', and then nothing happens. I feel sick every time I read about another lorry / cyclist death.

    I hope she is in peace.

  • OMG! Condolences to the friends and family of this poor woman.

    Despite some comments, Boris's people are doing some things to help reduce the number of these horrors. We think they are close to including on-bike cycle training in the lorry driver CPC courses run by TfL, if they can get the approval from the authorities. We need to keep pushing for councils and companies to take up this training.

    Boris engaged in a pretty shameful piece of victim-blaming when he was asked about reckless, illegal lorry drivers:

    Boris's question time:

    In light of Catriona Patel, a cyclist who was killed by a drunk lorry driver with numerous previous convictions and disqualifications, do you think the current system does enough to keep dangerous drivers off London's roads?

    *Boris Johnson:

    This was a horrendous case, whenever we have a cycling fatality in London it is a tragedy and my utmost sympathies are with Catriona Patel's family.

    There were 10 cycle fatalities in the capital last year and and in every case I look to try and work out why it has happened.

    It is particularly tragic that we often see deaths caused by a cyclist being caught by an HGV turning left. That is a terrible thing and we are trying to address it by educating HGV drivers, and putting special mirrors on traffic lights.

    I would however like to make the point that cycling in London is getting safer the whole time. I know it may not feel like that but the statistics show that while cycling has more than doubled in the last ten years the number of serious injuries and fatalities has declined by a fifth.

    Ultimately what I want to achieve in our city is a situation where everyone who uses a motorised vehicle on our roads knows they will find cyclists on the streets of London, and that as a result they drive responsibly.

    But perhaps most vital is getting safety advice to cyclists, whether new or experienced, particularly about road positioning and crucially that being in the blind spot of a large vehicle could potentially have tragic if not fatal consequences. *

    End quote.

    Boris was asked about what to do about drunk lorry drivers on the phone.

    His reply was that perhaps the best thing we can do is train cyclists. No amount of training can protect a cyclist from a driver like Dennis Putz, or from the lorry driver who nearly killed Boris after securing his rear door with a bent coathanger.

    Not check HGV firms' employment procedures, like Thames Materials who happily hired a multiple banned driver.

  • horrible stuff

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  • Can we remember that some of the victims family may well feel a need to read this thread at some point folks.

    I'm damn sorry this has happened... again. It sends chills and I can't imagine what the cyclists friends and family are dealing with. I wish we could make it stop.

  • Boris was probably addressing left hook fatalities in general when he made those comments, if you look at it from that perspective its a fairly noncontroversial thing to say.

    RIP young lady, i hope you're in a better place.

  • spindrift, let move that to an acceptable topic, this isn't it.

  • I don't think we should derail this thread into politics, tempting though this is.
    As editor of the Camden Cyclist, I am saddened and horrified by what I've read about this crash, which has occurred on 'our patch'.
    It's a horrific crash wherever though. I can't begin to imagine what the relatives are suffering.
    They are in my thoughts all the time.

  • Absolutely terrible news. Yet again I realise that I cant even imagine the impact something like this has on a family. If any one who knows her family reads this, tell them there is a community of people who have never met her who care very deeply about their daughter/sister/cousin......and what happened to her.
    Stay safe everyone.

  • I've been trying to find words to post something since yesterday but words fail me. This crash has made me really sad. RIP unknown victim. I hope her family will somehow find the strength to cope with this.

  • No disrespect intended. This was on my mind all day yesterday, it's just awful.

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