as it says in the title where abouts is the actual bike market?
i've been down a couple of sundays but not seen a large amount of bikes for sale and ive walked from spitalfileds market all the way to the surf/snowboard shop at the bethnal green road cross
if someone can tell me where it is in relation to a shop or somethin that would be class
will be there early doors tomorrow
There is no such place. Its a market of sorts that just happens to sell a few (stolen)bikes. Best to avoid.
He had a bike stolen and probably wants to recover it.
.....type E1 6PU into your Garmin and there you are!
Definitely a very silly question. You should be ashamed. I shouldn't even be acknowledging you. Thank god I dont know you.
it be on brick lane itself, north of the new Overground bridge, think they're all stolen as every week there's almost an entirely different bike of different type.
thanks guys going hunting for my stolen bike!!
Are you tooled up?
I reckon peak times are between 11-2pm This is when the general market is at its busiest. Good luck man. Im going down in a few minutes so i'll keep an eye out too.
Sorry to hijack this thread, but as I've never posted before (only read and absorbed / lurked) I am not priviledged enough to start my own post...
My friend wants to buy a bike from Brick Lane market - she has never cycled in London before (she's Canadian) and just wants something cheap and cheerful until she gets the hang of things, when she will upgrade. She asked my for guidance as I live on Brick Lane, and I did warn her that a lot of bikes round here are stolen. However, there's an old guy (Keith?) who's here every week, and also will fix your bike for you for a v. reasonable price, so I thought his stall might be legit(?)
To get round this problem, I decided I'd ring Brick Lane police station, as I assumed they'd have some log of frame numbers of (reported) stolen bikes. My thinking was we could then look for the bike's frame number and check with the police prior to purchase. The guy I spoke to was like "Um....no, I don't think we have anything like that". After I assured him they did, as I had 'signed up' to it, he put me on hold and consulted a mystery source. When he came back on the line he said "Um...so, it might have a post code stamped on the frame. That's the only way we can track it. So don't buy a bike with the post code on the frame." When I asked if he would like me to notify him if I did encounter any bikes with post codes on them his response was: 'Well.... I suppose you could do."
I know this probably sounds naive, but having worked with the police (as a consultant) before, I was genuinely surprised at this complete lack of organisation / concern for the stolen bike trade going on under their noses. Surely it can't be that hard for them to keep a database of stolen bike frame numbers?!? My grandmother is an antiques dealer and they have pretty decent systems in place at the big fairs (Newark, Ardingly) to stop people from inadvertantly fencing / buying stolen goods - and antiques don't even come with handy frame numbers. You think they'd make it a bit easier to stop unknowledgable people buying stolen bikes!
Also, his totally unsatisfactory response negates the fact that some people might want to legitimately sell on their post code marked bikes.
Obviously the answer to the question is just don't buy bikes from Brick Lane market, but it's a bit annoying to have to write-off a whole market which probably does have some genuine and non-stolen second hand bikes for sale, so all feedback and suggestions are welcome...
I've said it before and I'll say it again, OB are good for fuck all and couldn't give two shites about stolen bikes. There's no money to be made from it
Go through a red light though and they'll be more than happy to 'assist' you
What did your work as a consultant with the police involve? Because you seem to have an unusually naive view of how things work. Have you ever been burgled? If you have you'll know that the chance of the police of recovering your stuff is very small. Bike theft ranks even lower in their priorities.
Have a look at this thread:
It was as a psychologist, so involving crimes a little bit more 'high end' (as it were!) than bike theft. However, I'm just surprised they don't stick these details in their existing system. I was trained to use CRIS, which is the Met's crime referencing database, and it would be incredibly easy to create a databox to write in someone's frame number on their CRIS report if they reported their bike stolen. Then it would take an officer, literally, 40 seconds to a minute to run the frame number through CRIS and see if it flagged it as a stolen bike. My incredulity at their lack of interest was more to do with the fact that this software is already in place, so I can't believe they don't use it!
I've never had my bike stolen, or my home burgled (touch wood); but I do know with burgleries it's very hard to recover goods. But that's because they're not clearly, individually marked, surely? Bike frame numbers should be a gift to the police in terms of making them easy to find / track, so I'm just surpised (and very disappointed) they're not more 'on it'.
The police do take a record of your bike when you report it stolen--but whether the frame number goes on there of course depends on whether you know it, and most people don't. Hence, I'd assume that only a very small number of frame numbers would actually exist on the system.
CRIS doesn't need any new data boxes written--they all exist, and anyone trained on it can take down information about a bike in exhaustive detail. Again, it's people's ability to report it that's at issue. I remember reporting a friend's stolen bike at Southwark Police station once and all that the bloke ahead of us in the line could remember was that his bike was red.
There is both an advantage and a disadvantage to this disorganisation--the disadvantage is obvious, but the advantage is that there is no compulsory bike registration system in this country.
Nonetheless, there is another database--the Immobilise database, where the police would strongly encourage anyone to register their bike. The police can then simply query the database either when you report your bike stolen or when they recover it.
The best advice is not to buy from Brick Lane, ever. Give it a wide berth. Go to a reputable bike shop. You might spend more money in the short term, but it will pay off massively in the longer term.
i think i've mentioned this before but:
after my flat in hackney was burgled i had to report to the police station in the morning. when i did i saw a crackhead on my bike, wearing my hat and my flatmate's jacket hanging round right outside the police station. being weedy and afraid i ran in and told the policaman on the desk that the guy who'd stolen my stuff was right outside the front door with my stuff... they said they'd send a car round. "he's right there!" said i. shrug said he. i stalked back outside and followed the guy for a few minutes till the car eventaully turned up. i pointed the guy out to them, he must have been fifty metres away... and yep, they still failed to catch him. he cunningly eluded them by going very slowly round a corner (and blending into the rest of the crowd of hackney crackheads presumably?). i never got my bikes, guitars, amps recording equipment, tv, videos, records, clothes, shoes or milk (they took that too) back. police incompetence and indiference never surprises me.
and having been on the receiving end of prosecutions for such heinous crimes as riding a pedicab, and jumping red lights on deserted early sunday morning streets, neither does their mean spirited, money grubbing, petty vindictiveness.
they stole your fucking milk???
That sounds about par for the course, sadly. You did right not to try to tackle him yourself, BTW - they'd probably have been only to happy to issue a fixed-penalty ticket for a some public order nonsense if you had. Said ticket would of course have gone to you, because dealing with the generally law-abiding is a lot less grief than arresting people who may be violent and/or have outstanding warrants, both of which require work.
they stole your fucking milk???
Nah I think it was just regular cow's milk.
i've heard worse stories to be honest. i'm just glad when i stumbled downstairs in the middle of the night i was too bleary to notice they were still in the flat.
aaaanyway. hope you get your bike back strange name rooster man (david h?). for the record i've always found most of the stolen bikes being touted in the side bit to the market, just off brick lane itself. near the alley that runs from beth grn road round the back of the beigel shops.
Its called Scalter Street and it runs perpendicular to Brick Lane and becomes Cheshire Street.
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